Just straight up put him on the roster and not swap anyone?
Easily better
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wemby’s defense would shine way brighter in OKC, don’t think they would drop off that much offensively, they would be better. SGA and R Kelly feeding Wemby would rise his efficiency to above average TS%
There are No teams that wouldn't benefit from having wembenyama on their roster. Dude can do it all and he has been an all star since his first game of the season. He's only going to get better. This might be a little bit of a hot take but he's like a fusion between Giannis and Tim Duncan. Wemenyama has the potential to be better then bother of them and that's shocking to say the last.
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Having a big man who can shoot threes is very important to OKC's system and Wemby can't actually really shoot threes right now despite the highlights
The real question is put Chet on the Spurs, are the Spurs better or worse now?
Honestly probably a better record, but worse off for actually trying to contend in the future. The Spurs are still learning how to play with Wemby and turn the ball over a ton trying to get it to him. With Chet, I feel like he’d probably stand in the corner and it’d be the Keldon show all over again which is a bit more ordinary and might be able to pull out some (few) random wins.
Bro we’re ass, Chet ain’t saving us. At best, we start losing games by 20 instead of 30.
They’re both in near ideal spots. Wemby gets to be the first option like he’s used to and Chet gets to play a role like he’s used to
They would be worse, most of the impact stats have Chet in or close to the top 10.
slightly worse
Worse if you swap them, because Victor is just not a good shooter right now. You can point to the lack of playmaking on his team but he's still shooting 30% from three on attempts with defenders 4+ feet away (slight improvement to 33% when just looking at "wide open" 6+ft)
He may or may not be slightly better on defense; but a lot of our offensive gravity comes from + Shai plus shooters and Victor would take away from that while also taking the ball away from Shai (Victor's usage rate is nearly that of Shai's). I don't think the potential upsides outweigh the downsides.
Now, if you give us Chet AND Shai... >:)
Chet - right now - is better than Wemby. That’s a factual statement both statistically and eye-test wise. Might not hold true in the future, but they would not be better with Wemby this season.
Chet would still be a better shooter
The gap wouldn’t be nearly as drastic, he might be a few percent points better if they swapped teams. Wemby probably being a league average mid 30’s guy and Chet dropping slightly below 40%
Chet is shooting 43 percent from 3 rn brother
I’m aware, I too can read his stat line. Are you following the point of this whole thought exercise? If he changed teams to the Spurs, he wouldn’t shoot as well…that’s the whole point here….
the post is asking about wemby on okc vs chet on okc, so it doesn’t make sense you’re adjusting chet’s % for the comparison
Chet plays a lot "smarter" with his team relative to wemby which is a given due to his age and experience. But as of now, Wemby would make OKC worse.
This is a question of fit as much as it is a question of efficiency. Chet fits better in OKC, I think. Wemby is currently benefitting from-, and suffering from the reality of being The Guy in SA. Everything is built around him. In OKC, Shai and the rest of the roster allow Chet the ability to be selective/opportunistic. He’s doing great within that. Wemby is operating with feature touches and volume. Chet is getting 29.1 points per 100 possessions on 18 FGA per 100 possessions. Wemby is scoring 30.1 points per 100 possessions on 25.7 FGA per 100 possessions. They have some similarities, but they have different roles.
I’m not sure how Wemby would look being selective. That emphasizes making reads on what defenses are giving up, rather than finding something from nothing.
To be clear, this is “it’s hard to say”, not “I don’t think he would do well.”
I believe any player that goes to okc will play above their potential. Wemby, Duren any young center would shine there because they come with an easy job. the head coach is a wizard honestly
sadly he's a thunder 🥺
Dieng was a literal consensus lottery pick and still sucks whenever he’s on the court lol.
Giddey was a top 6 pick with all the potential in the world - he is still not a positive NBA player.
Like he’s a good coach, not a miracle worker that makes you one of the best shooters at your position as a rookie lol.
Watched every game, Dieng is nice af. he is still young and raw so it benefits his game to play in the gleage vs being a catch & shoot guy on the main roster.
They’d be worse in the short term if you’re replacing Chet with him. Wemby’s shooting needs to get substantially better—and even in France his percentages weren’t amazing
15 games into their careers and people trying to talk about who's better smfh
Doesn’t that happen all the time? Seems perfectly normal in sports
Chet is better than wemby no narrative won’t change this
Automatic downvote for any Chet vs Wemby post.
maybe a little worse
Worse, but it's ok. Chet has a year of NBA training under his belt and is just a better player right now.
Better, you lose some shooting efficiency but you gain a better vertical threat, all the crazy disruption he causes on defense and you allow him to play in a much more simplified way which cuts out so much of the awkwardness we see with him on the Spurs.
Unless the Thunder are that dependent on having their 5 be a plus shooter that it would outweigh all the crazy benefits that Wemby brings, then it should be Wemby. I think Wemby is a mid 30’s 3 point shooter in a similar role fyi, not elite like Chet has been but certainly a lot better than his percentages on the Spurs would suggest.
I think it’s close though, even with my argument the Thunder would be better, it would be marginal…whereas the Spurs would be a lot worse with Chet instead of Wemby. Chet would be asked to do a lot more and wouldn’t have everything served up to him by great guards and facilitators anymore.
Chet’s had better verticality since their pre-NBA careers. That’s a massive reason why he’s maintaining a 70% TS; he’s essentially already elite at rimrunning and timing cuts. Wemby might be taller, but he doesn’t position himself as well and focuses a bit more on isolation.
The shooting disparity is also pretty big - most of Wemby’s 3s are wide open as is, and he’s not hitting them. His 3P% wouldn’t really change on the Thunder.
Wrong on all accounts, Wemby’s verticality is inhuman, the plays he makes around the rim when guys just throw it up there are insane. And his hands are so big he can just catch the ball with one have like it’s a softball almost.
He takes so many moving, step in 3’s, out of rhythm 3’s…he has the shooting mechanics, he would be a league average shooter at least if he was in a lower volume role getting all his 3’s off the catch. He also obviously wouldn’t be playing the same style or role on the Thunder, so he wouldn’t be iso’ing…that’s the whole point of this post.
Wrong on all accounts, Wemby’s verticality is inhuman, the plays he makes around the rim when guys just throw it up there are insane. And his hands are so big he can just catch the ball with one have like it’s a softball almost.
Which applies to Chet as well. Like I said, that’s a major part of his production. It might not look as fancy, but he gets it done. Chet’s also notably faster in a straight-line, so that opens up more lob/rimrunning opportunities.
He takes so many moving, step in 3’s, out of rhythm 3’s…he has the shooting mechanics, he would be a league average shooter at least if he was in a lower volume role getting all his 3’s off the catch. He also obviously wouldn’t be playing the same style or role on the Thunder, so he wouldn’t be iso’ing…that’s the whole point of this post.
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I’ve watched Spurs games, and statistics also show that he’s shooting 31% on open 3s.
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What I meant is he’s always been more of an iso-driven player than Chet. Their instincts on the court have always been different, regardless of the caliber of their rosters in the last 2-3 years.
Everyone has already forgotten Chet spent all of last year in the OKC setup - this makes a difference. Let alone his situation aka better team and defined role. He's better ATM as much because of the team as his own play, but youd be a fool to say anything about both their careers yet
Right now? The same or maybe a bit worse. But a few years from now? Probably better.
all i can say is at this moment chet is playing better
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Right this minute I think Chet is the better all around player just because of the team he's on. Put Wemby on OKC and Wemby becomes the better player. I think Chet knows when to pass, Wemby aint there yet because -well he dont got shooters.