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I am a software developer with a full time job. My salary is not enough for me rely completely on job, and I cant take the risk of leaving my job and finding another one, because I live paycheck to paycheck and dont have any savings.

Lurking through buildinpublic and here on reddit, I feel like a loser.

I am comparatively good doing full stack development ( Nodejs, React etc ). Considering my strong and weak points I came up with following projects in 2 categories.

  1. Build some products My strong points are: I can spend time building projects, but I dont have money to buy servers or to launch them, minimum cost considering database and all would be around $100/month ( Coming from India, this amount is huge for me, Its approx 8000/month )
  2. Build design templates I can spend time learning about designs since, initial investment here is low ( cost of figma, framer ) and then sell templates which can eventually help me earn sustainable amount of money, But issue is, My design skills are complete zero. For example, I get confused when I want to decide colors, or fonts.

So which path I should spend my time on ?

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[–] Single_Advice1111@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Just build it basic with nuxt/next using edge functions on vercel/netlify? Use a free supabase and you’re good.

You can even use Postgres functions as CRON handlers and call your edge functions…

[–] adwaithks@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Try digital ocean for server (VPS), planetscale for database (digital ocean is also good). netlify for frontend hosting.

[–] shivanshmehendiratta@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

if you register a llc or a pvt ltd in india (<10000), you should be eligible for credits by most cloud providers. so if servers are the only blocker for (1), this might solve it.

[–] logscc@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You can rent server for $10 a month.

[–] supacoda@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

What are you trying to build which will take $100 per month? If you go for AWS lightsail, DigitalOcean, Linode etc. it will be about $5 for a small VPS where you can install your own database. Once you feel soneone is going to pay for your app you can upgrade to a bigger server. If you have a serious idea you can apply for azure startup founders hub which will give you $1000 free credit for a year. AWS has similar programs for startup.

[–] xieyschaan@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

How good are you with building things? I might have a proposition for you if you are good.

[–] MediocreAd432@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

why would it cost a $100 a month to host?

[–] servesociety@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You can deploy an app on Heroku with a DB for about $20 per month.

I would try to launch something as quickly as possible, because that's the quickest way to learn. Come up with an idea, work out how quickly you can get something out (ideally less than one month), charge for it, then scale up your servers when you have people paying you.

[–] juggerjaxen@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

bro, launching has never been cheaper and easier. - railway, vercel, digitalocean etc.

[–] vsujeesh@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Run your own on premise server/VM using enterprise 2nd hand small form factor desktops, e.g. https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimicro-home-lab-revolution/

[–] boybitschua@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Planetscale has free plan with enough limits. You dont have to spend that much on a DB

[–] strzibny@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You can put everything on a cheap server, it's really enough for a start.

I wrote a book on deployment if you need to learn some details https://deploymentfromscratch.com

And I put together a blog post how to run all on single VPS with Kamal https://nts.strzibny.name/deploying-rails-single-server-kamal/

Good luck!

[–] xxbbzzcc@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You can keep the cost low by using the following techniques (I am using both):

  1. Use Next.js + MongoDB + Vercel (All free tier): If your apps can be 100% serverless, this will ideally give you a bill of $0/month.

Checkout Letters. I have been running it for two years now and paid $0 till date.

  1. Use a cheap $5/month droplet(VM) from Digital Ocean + MongoDB: If your apps need a long running server, this way you can keep the cost fixed.

Deploy all of your apps in the same VM and use Caddy for reverse proxy.

DM me if you need help.

[–] CryptoMonops@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m always looking for full stack devs to work with on side projects. We have a Web3 agency and could always use a hand with some of the non web 3 stuff that comes our way. We should talk!

[–] Competitive-Fox2439@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Are you looking for any Python devs? Can I PM?

[–] 23am50@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Data eng. Do you need something?

[–] pentaclay@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I liked how detailed you wrote about your problems. Most of the users just write within 4/5 lines with no context.

However, you can start with making plugins and selling them on platform like codecanyon. No design skills are needed.

[–] RealCaptainDaVinci@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you have a spare PC or laptop you can run the service on it and use ngrok for proxying to the public internet. This is the cheapest option.

[–] PhilipLGriffiths88@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You could also use zrok.io. It's an open source alternative which can be self-hosted or has a free SaaS. It also includes cool features like 'private sharing' (which means both sides can be private with no inbound ports). I work on the parent project.

[–] Xenox_11@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Use basic stuff and it will cost nothing. Use uploadthing for images - 2GB free (that's a lot)

Vercel - Free

Mongo - Free 512 MB or Cockroach DB (10GB free!)

scale when you need to

[–] mahirmahdi@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You can build most of the side projects for free. There's free tier for almost everything. Build it and if it gets traction and you get users then you can scale it using the revenue.

[–] ZippyTyro@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

helpful thread

[–] WolfOliver@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

for my side projects (plural), I run a two-node k3s cluster on Hetzner for less than 50$. The database is also running on this cluster.

Cons: You need to operate the k3s cluster and understand it

Pros: If your side project fails, you can switch to DevOps/Platform Operation field which is often better paid then software development

[–] astar0n@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Haha i like the pro in this, considering I do find DevOps fascinating.

[–] usernamundefined@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Hi OP, I'm looking for a co founder, I'm also a SWE and plan to go full time on my project. If you're interested LMK (can't send you a DM).

[–] MrGreenyz@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Can we have a chat?