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[–] mrductape@eviltoast.org 209 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem obviously being that it is not the browser they want you too use, so they create "a problem".

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't even need to go that far. Windows has so many problems all the time, they just have to pick one and attribute this response to it.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why stop at just one? Someday soon I'm sure they'll gleefully tell you that Windows couldn't format your USB thumb drive, so they reset your browser.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Oops, couldn't find that file! Better reset your browser. Actually I'll just go ahead and turn Windows Recall back on, too. Better get your OneDrive trial started also, I know you wanted that..."

make sure to encrypt your drive so only we can spy on you, not scary people who steal your computer!

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 103 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I love how in their minds this is going to be a win. Like there are going to be all these people out there who just quietly accept that they'll use Microsoft Edge from now on, and also in addition not form any kind of revision to their brand impression of Microsoft going forward.

I am sure there are some people who just kind of don't give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it's a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I am sure there are some people who just kind of don't give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it's a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.

You're definitely overestimating the size of your own bubble. The vast, vast, vast majority of people won't even notice, forget caring or actually doing anything about it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 45 points 1 week ago (8 children)

https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-2025-q1

Check "Market Share by OS" and switch it to Windows. Every one of those 67.359% of people who is using Chrome had it downloaded to their computer on purpose instead of just clicking "Internet" and getting Edge. Obviously they feel strongly enough to do that, so I don't see how they would be amenable to losing all their bookmarks and settings and just going with Edge when one day their OS tries to trick them into it.

[–] relativestranger@feddit.nl 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

many of those chrome 'users' got there after clicking on one of google's many somewhat misleading 'advertisements' or 'notices' or 'warnings'

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Citation: It is known

How many of them? How do you know?

"Many. It is known."

I also like how you put "users" in quotes for some reason. Anyway, good talk.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (8 children)

To be fair, the claim that every single user deliberately installed chrome has the same citation lol

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[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can assure you that the vast majority of users in my footprint, about 600 of them, use Chrome because we set it as default. Many people have no idea the difference between Chrome and edge. I am currently sitting at a desk where the user has opened Chrome, but it is not default.

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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you're overestimating the degree to which the majority of users are willing to inconvenience themselves over a browser. If Microsoft announced tomorrow that Windows no longer supported any browser other than edge you wouldn't see a mass migration to Linux. Instead you would see a healthy uptick in complaints about edge.

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 87 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There is no end on Microsoft nagging:

  • Trying to install Firefox.
  • Windows: Why would you need another browser? You already have a browser. Use Microsoft Edge.
[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (8 children)

That's why i completely nuked Edge when i was still on windows 11. Including WebView. I simply did not give a fuck if anything used edge.

When i installed (fedora) linux for the first time, i was like:

wait... this really does only what i tell it to! holy shit!

And i never looked back. (And i distrohopped over time. I am currently using arch, and testing NixOS in a VM via virt-manager. If i find it to be good enough, i'll copy the config and install on my host, alongside arch. And slowly, i'll nixify my pc.)

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[–] DecentM@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 week ago

Microsoft Edge encountered an error: Microsoft Edge is not the default browser. We reset your default browser to Microsoft Edge to resolve the problem

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.

I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack to disable ads/AI/bloat and restore removed Start menu functionality (like vertical taskbars). Also, always build the ISO in Rufus so you have the option to disable the Microsoft account requirement.

Alternatively you could* switch to Linux.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.

I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack...

Me: Why go through all that trouble, just install Linux

Alternatively you would switch to Linux.

Welp

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Therefore@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I just finished migrating our last windows holdout in my house. Honestly very painless and while everyone is different we haven't had any regrets. Eol for Windows 10 was a fantastic bogeyman.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I laughed at Microsoft a lot when they basically made Windows 10 beg people to try edge.

You tried to change your default and it was like, this isn't recommended! And you're like, idgaf change the default, and Windows is like, are you sure? Yes! But edge can save battery power. Are you really sure?

Fuck off edge. Change the default.

[–] NoFun4You@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago

I hate that Windows is like this

It would be better if people didn't need to worry about switching.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago

That app was your other browser. And the problem was that it made itself your default browser. But no worries. We fixed that right up for you.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 32 points 1 week ago (9 children)

A post about Windows being shit? On Lemmy? I wonder what the comments are going to be about. Maybe someone will have found an alternative system to use.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Have you tried TempleOS by chance?

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Microsoft needs to hire a psychologist or something. Their senseless nagging on forcing shit down our throats doesn't psychologically work the way they think it does.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Except it does work. Its easy to forget that most users dont really know or care that much about their browser or care what their laptop is doing.

They just click things until something with search bar comes up.

The tech savy people are not their biggest customer group so they can risk annoying some people as long as they know they are getting more people in to their enviroment than they are loosing their users.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

I mean, if the alternative is vanilla Chrome, it hardly matters at this point. They're both so loaded with tracking your computer will dent the floor, and they have basically the same capabilities.


Obviously FF is better, but what I'm saying is, statistically, for the vast majority, this is only pulling folks off of Chrome.

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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Funnily enough, I got an email from MS plugging their Copilot shit.

I don't give a fuck about what I'm subscribed to, I give a fuck about the link to unsubscribe from it.

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[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Translation.

We found a problem and its that you made the Wrong choice.

Set Microsoft edge to default browser

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Windows: The top choice when you want someone else to control your computer.

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[–] markpaskal@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Switched to Ubuntu completely this year and I think it's finally ready. There are still issues, there are always going to be issues, but at least I get to choose which apps I want to use.

Windows 11 is just objectively terrible. It's Microsoft turning your power bill into their profit.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Something I've noticed, and it's consistent enough that I suspect that microsoft does it on purpose, there's a 50/50 chance that your windows instal will either be fine forever without problems, or plagued with constant issues that get worse with every update. 2 identical machines with the same install media can produce very different experiences.

I use linux now, and I no longer do tech support, so I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit anymore.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

You're absolutely right, but there's a bit more to it than that.

As someone who deployed Windows professionally for years and was a power user at home, let me supply some additional details,

Windows has become business software through and through. It can run fine enough if you go with a basic install and minimal tweaks through only the standard channels (like Group Policy) and this is probably what those people always loudly claiming "well I never have an issue!" are doing and then they'll accuse you for bringing it on yourself from deviating from this.

But what everyone should understand, especially them, is that this is not how normal people use their computers and it's utter bullshit that Microsoft continues to restrict people into this box. Most businesses don't need hardly anything aside from Office and perhaps one or two industry specific applications, an overwhelming number of these being SaaS these days anyways. Normal people on the other hand use a wide variety of software for their businesses and hobbies in a wide array of configurations and what's more, we enjoy personalizing our experiences on top of it, as we should! This unsurprisingly leads to more instability that Microsoft simply doesn't want to take responsibility for.

People still complain about not being able to move the taskbar from the bottom of the screen and Microsoft apologists will say, "but it's such a small thing!" And well, it is and that's kind of my point; it's a bellweather. I bet it's a simple fix, they could do it, they could please people and provide further usability but they just don't have to. How long has it gone unaddressed now? You want to play Call of Duty, you cretin? Lick our boots! And don't even get me started on the whole SecureBoot/TPM 2.0 DRM lockdown issue.

I use Arch BTW and here's my quick pitch for that. It really is a good distro for people of moderate or above skill level. I slowly built it out over time, bolted on each carefully selected piece of software from the repository, reading the wiki and making configurations as I went. In doing so, I gained a better understanding of Linux in general and my system in specific so on the rare occasions something does break, I don't feel as clueless addressing it. The reason we all start to sound like cult-like zealots after awhile is because we've established a personal relationship with our computers; it is my friend again. It's hard to understate the actual palpable relief that comes from cutting out a bloated, malicious corporation from that chain of trust with a machine we use in our daily lives.

It's time to end Microsoft. Reach out, be helpful and welcoming in the Linux community. They're losing balance, they've overplayed their hand on 11 and over-invested in AI and while I doubt we'd be lucky enough to be truly rid of them, we can see them suffer some real damage.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

"oopsie reawwy sowwy uwu"

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, as with many other people. this stuff is certainly pushing me into Linux.

That said, is there no chance of the EU restarting their probes towards them with all the dark patterns they've been using to push people into Edge?

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For those contemplating a shift to Linux, this site lets you kick the tires on different distros.

https://distrosea.com/

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[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reminds of that kid that trips over and eats a class colleague's entire banana

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