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So for most of my life, I’ve struggled with lying. I know a lot of people with autism are honest and have a tendency to tell the truth no matter what. Despite being autistic, I have the opposite problem. I lie all the time.

From the simplest things to major concerns, lies have always been a part of my life. As a college student, The biggest thing I’ve lied about is my grades. My parents are always on my ass to do well and ask about my grades constantly. Because my parents can’t see them, I often have to show them over the computer. Luckily, for me, I can only show them what I want them. On the website that shows my grades, there is something called a what if score that you can use to test different scores to see how it will impact your grade. After you’re done using it, your score reverts back to what it originally was. I often use that to turn C’s into A’s, and just crop out the assignments that are marked as missing. This isn’t something I always do, only when I have a bad grade.

I also lie about my friendships. My parents often make the assumption that I’m lonely and don’t want me to spend the weekend in my dorm. I’m offended that they think that, as it is not the case at all. I do have friends in college, we just don’t hang out every single day. I am on the cross country team in college, and a big thing my parents assume is that that is where all my friends come from. While I enjoy being there and racing, I am far from being friends with any of them. 90% of them speak Spanish, and make jokes I don’t understand, or use slang. They are also Coaches pet’s, and insist on being perfect 24/7. They’ve all formed friendships, but I’m kinda just there. My mom was super worried about the original college I wanted to go to, and insisted I would be the minority of them, but really, I’m the minority here. I’m considering transferring, but ultimately I don’t know. So I lie to my parents and tell them I’m hanging out with friends when they call so that they aren’t worried, I’ve also turned off my location because oftentimes it shows when I’m in my dorm.

Another thing I lie about is sports. My coach wants us to trust him, and pushes us to tell him if we are injured or feel we are being overworked. The thing is, he has all the girls run the same pace, regardless of their level. Even when we tell him we aren’t ready for it, he says he wants us to try and run it. On the other hand, injuries are banned, meaning if we’re injured, he won’t let us run at all. Any injury, major or minor, banishes us to biking or sitting on the sidelines during races. I had a minor injury yesterday and today, but I haven’t said anything because we have an important race next week and I don’t want to be banned from going. I’m still taking care of myself though obviously. My old coach knew when I was injured and would put me as a liar when I said I was fine, but the difference is he actually allowed me to train and race as long as I felt ok.

As a kid, I would lie when I was nervous to do something. For example, I will be getting ready for school, And my mom would just randomly ask me, “Is your sister up yet,” Or “Can you get your sister up?” For whatever reason I get incredibly nervous when I’m asked to do this, not just towards my sister, but everybody. If I was on the phone with my parents, I would lie and tell them that I wasn’t home or was outside so I didn’t have to go check. Whenever I was honest though, my parents always told me it’s ok to lie. For example, one time I had accidentally broken a magnet on the fridge. It was a really small break so I just decided to glue it together and put it back on the fridge. Later on, my mom broke the piece that I glued back, and seemed upset about it. I ended up telling her that I did it, And she just laughed and told me I didn’t have to tell her, that she would’ve thought she broke herself. I was so embarrassed.

Another time, when my sister and I were kids, My mom would bake cookies, and my sister and I would always eat the cookie dough out of the mixing bowl. My mom would always ask us, “ Are you guys eating cookie dough?” We were really young, and at the time we just come clean that we were. Our mom would just laugh and say, “You’re supposed to say no Mom!” I have a big tendency to lie about food. One time, I ate a hot tub of feta cheese. A few days later We were eating breakfast, and my mom asked if we’ve seen it. We said we didn’t. Then she got all upset and said. “ I swear I bought a big tub of feta cheese, I know I did!” I got really nervous and eventually came clean and told her I ate it. My mom looked at me, and said a very loud and shocked tone, “Are you serious?” I freaked out and told her I was sorry, and she said, “No, it’s ok, I’m just shocked that you ate it all.” That really embarrass me because of my eating problems, I normally don’t eat a lot in front of my family, but eat large quantities of the things I can eat. Often times it stuns my parents. I don’t like my parents being shocked at how much I eat or don’t eat, so I often lie about it, and eat large amounts when I am away from them.

Lying has become a big part of my life. I know I shouldn’t be doing it, but sometimes, It makes me feel safe and calm. Has anybody else felt like this?

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[–] reversedposterior@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I feel like this is an extension of masking to meet society's expectations. I've done similar things as a kid and even now as a middle aged person there are situations where I find it really hard to be myself, I just roleplay as the character I know others want me to be so that they leave me alone.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This seems to me a protection + masking habit that simply gained momentum by right of its effectiveness.

My father is on the narcissist spectrum, combined with a hefty dose of religious antagonism. Growing up I also found myself in a lying pattern about the most inane, meaningless things: because I knew that certain true answers, no matter how equally meaningless, would inspire his ridicule, judgment, or scorn.

Lies became commonplace, a form of storytelling to try and push the narrative; not towards any place in particular, just away from topics or zones where responses could grow fraught. That's me anyways, not sure how much you might feel any overlap

[–] Marycat1@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

I am the same way! My mom isn’t a narcissist but has a tendency to manipulate me to try and get me to feel bad and listen to her, it used to work, but now I just tell her that her pathos isn’t going to work on me lol

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Speaking for myself, I grew up in an extremely toxic environment. Honesty, misunderstandings, and dishonesty were punished equally. So telling the truth about three transgressions guaranteed that you received the punishment of each. Getting caught lying made little to no difference. But getting away with anything meant less punishment. This created an environment where it was ALWAYS beneficial to lie. This made me very good at deception as a young child. That made it very easy to manipulate those around me. I didn't want to so it wasn't that important to me, but it helped me survive and adapt.

But I got away from that place and met my partner who taught me complete trust and opened. No matter what I say, we work together and support one another. I have no incentive to deceive. Every once in a while I forget that no one is going to hit me for messing up and I start to lie. But even that is immediately accepted and appreciated. Additionally, we also have standing agreements that nothing is obligated. If you don't want to talk about something, you don't have to. And if you want to lie, you can. But after two decades, I love telling the truth. I feel so supported and safe.

Now, there are times I lie (to others mostly), but it is used as a tool more than a survival tactic. It is something I take my time with and decide to do.

Maybe your environment is not one that is safe to exist in? That was my issue.

[–] Marycat1@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most times I use lying as a tool too, it’s just easier to try to not get caught lol

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

No doubt. Mistakes and bad decisions happen. I rarely choose to do harm. Even when I have done harm, it was usually an unforeseen product of better intent. I can only assume that others share these sentiments. So it's easy for me to rationalize the concept that:

  1. Were I to confront an alternate but identical self, would I feel that I had any reason to deceive and would I be receptive to understanding or even empathy? No and yes, respectively and obviously. Therefore...

  2. Were I to confront my closest friend, would I feel that they had any reason to deceive and would I be receptive to understanding or even empathy? Again, a no-brainer. No and yes. So...

  3. Were my closest friend to confront me, should they feel that I had any reason to deceive and should they be receptive to understanding or even empathy?

I know what the answer should be. Self-empathy is tough. I exist in a place of love where I have no reason to deceive because forgiveness is guaranteed and empathy is the norm. But I still resist my own empathy because of learned trauma.

And I just realized that I wasn't really sharing this for you because my brain went down a thought that you didn't actually convey. 😆 I suppose this was moreso practice for my own mental health. My therapist is going to be so proud.

This is me and myself about to pat each other on each other's back at the same time. 🙅 Good job, me!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago

Masking very often takes the form of lying. If I think the truth will elicit a negative reaction, I'll lie. Nothing to do with whether I would get in trouble for something, but more if the other person will yell or become belligerent.

[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

people do whatever they have to do to feel safe. there's no problem with that.

maybe you deserve more trust and autonomy than your parents are giving you. if the reason for asking your grades is "dad wants a treat", it sounds like they are asking for their own pleasure, not out of concern for you.

so maybe it's a really good thing that you're lying to them to make space for yourself to feel emotionally safe.

every one deserves to feel safe, no matter if the feelings of danger are caused by parents or strangers.

[–] Marycat1@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I completely agree with you. I know lying isn’t a good thing but sometimes it does help me when I’m worried about something. The whole “dad wants a treat” thing was likely because it was Halloween lol, although my mom seems to lie to me too, saying stuff like, “your dad is coming up every weekend to clean your dorm” since it’s unorganized lol

[–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Them asking you for your grades specifically and not just “how’s school going?” sounds like a control issue on your parents part. If you’re in college, then you are an adult with your own life to worry about and you will deal with the consequences of your own actions. You are out of the house and your parents aren’t your caretakers anymore. While I would recommend keeping your grades up for your own sake, it’s really none of your parents’ business what your specific grades are. Even asking in a funny way can still be controlling, and might be their way of masking that they are being controlling. I’d say lying isn’t ethically wrong in a situation like this. If you are passing your classes, they won’t know. But you may get caught if you’re failing your classes and don’t graduate on time or get dropped from your program.

[–] Marycat1@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I still live with my parents outside of college. I am passing all my classes currently but am doing my best to get my grades up in the ones I care about.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I do have friends

Nice try OP, clearly a lie /s

Besides the fact that autistic people can and do have friends, and if those are also neurodivergent on a much deeper level then what normal people consider friends.

I have some experience with the 2 ways we tend to evolve around lies. As my dad is also a frequent liar.

In general many people like us prefer truth because its more predictable and accurate. We cant fault ourselves from doing what we know is right and this defends against the frequent criticism we encounter for being different.

But when criticism is pushed too much, and being technically correct doesn’t help we look for alternatives. We learn to create new narratives to counter the perception of others.

My dad was often considered the black sheep compared to his “perfect” younger sister because he had more visible challenges. He learned to adapt to the fact that its not truth of events that matters but perception.

My aunts life turned out a chaotic mess when she faced the adult world who would not so easily give her whatever she wanted but thats besides the point here. I feel bad for both.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't know for certain if it's autism... but my son went through a very similar trend to you on that. In short he flunked out of a semester of community college, he basically stopped doing his work 2 weeks in. just let everything slide, flunked out, wrecked his financial aid etc... Looked me in the eye every day when I asked him if he was keeping up with everything, and he eventually came clean to me in finals week when he realized it was all impossible to catch up.

He's never been officially diagnosed with autism, but him and I both have some strong factors that match it. For us basically we needed to get family therapy, did it remotely, gave him a session or 2 with the therapist. then some with myself and his stepmom. Honestly in the end what it takes is doing the actual honest thing, it starts with confessing, explaining how you faked the results, and show them how to get over it. IE the obvious ways it can be done is to give them direct access to the portal, or instead of screenshots go full on with say teamviewer, anydesk, screensharing in discord or microsoft teams etc... something that gives them real time so you can scroll and show them that the grade simulator etc... is not currently running etc...

I don't know how much your lying is taking you, but you certainly know there's the rope, of how far you can lie before you hit the point of what you can't hide things any longer. IE when you can't sign up for the next class because you failed the previous. Again I can't speak for you, but with my son, he said he was always lying to himself, telling himself he was just putting it off and he'll catch everything up before the end of the semester, until he hit finals week, couldn't catch everything up. Knew that was an impossible goal.

I feel while the lying gave him a short term relief, that nagging in the back of his head, the panic of what happens when it all catches up to him etc... was weighing on him heavily in the meantime. You sound like you have supportive parents, they don't sound like they are narcisists or controlling monsters, they actually are trying to help. Maybe you actually do need help?

[–] Marycat1@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes I do need help, but I was always labeled as a kid for being “special ed,” so I’ve always avoided getting help now that I can make decisions for myself

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Sometimes the decision for yourself, is to know when you need it.

No matter what the conditions, neurotypical, neurodivergent, parent, kid... doesn't matter. end of the day no one can do everything by themselves.

The person who thinks they can always do everything and continues to throw themselves at it, is messing up just as hard as the one who asks for help every 2 seconds on things he should know.

Being a capable adult, is figuring out what you can and can't do on your own, and who is the best resource to get help from. Your a college student, your proffesors most likely have office hours, there's likely a tutor system in place etc... These aren't special things made for their "special ed" kids, they are resources available for everyone, for a reason. Again that doesn't mean you have to or even should go to them before you look at what you are doing, you should look at the work, look at it. Find out what's

Oh i already know this, I'll knock it out

Hmmm this one is going to take a bit of added research, I think I can figure it out.

and

Oh shit, what language is this task written in?

knock out everything you can do easily, put some work into the others, if somethings hanging you too long, move it into the last pile.

Then go get the help you need. Don't sell yourself short, don't think taking advantage of the resources the school specifically has to help students is admitting failure, it's knowing yourself. Trust me a 40 some year old fogie like myself, damn straight I turn to others when I need help. But most importantly I have the respect of the people I turn to, specifically because I do the due dilligence of eliminating all the newbie issues before bringing the problem up the ladder.

[–] Avalokitesha@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Not gonna lie, you sound as if you think controlling parents are in the right, the way you say they should have access.

That's a resounding fuck no from me.

It doesn't matter if kids fuck up or not. If they do, like your son, they hopefully learn a valuable lesson that apparently they have been spared before, for whatever reason. Maybe they never really had to put effort in studying in high school before - I saw a lot of that in my friends at college, they completely underestimated that college is harder than high school.

Or maybe they never learned to get shit done without parents nagging. Especially in that case they need to learn, for you will not always be there to nag. Helicopter parenting is a sign of lacking confidence in your kid's abilities. And even if the kids are fucking up, mistakes must be made in order to learn.

It's not your life, but your kids life, and your kid needs to live it. Let them. Support them if you can and they need help, but don't enable them - if they keep fucking up, let them unfuck it themselves are the third time. Otherwise you'll do your kid a disservice and make them unable to deal with life.

And I'm not saying don't help them if they ask for help, like when they can't figure something out on their own. Help them help themselves as much as possible and try not to fix everything for them.

You controlling the grades is trying to fix it for your son. How will he ever get work done later on his own? Many neurodivergent people don't do well in-office or in a job setting in general. In a home office setting or if you are your own boss the skill to self-motivate is even more important.