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Pay tip at the bakery for them selling you a bread
Pay a tip at the parking place for the guy sitting there
Pay a tip at a weed store for them selling you weed
Pay a tip at the car dealer shop because your car just received maintenance
All these are tips I have refused to pay
I stand by you on this.
This new restaurant opened up behind my house and the food is amazing according to reviews.
First time we go in, we order at the front, PAY, then wait for our food.
I've never been here, why would i tip you BEFORE i get my food? I left no tip on the pinpad and gave them cash when we left. But the whole premise of tipping BEFORE a service is something rich people do to get better treatment at a country club or spa, not when we are buying food.
the whole premise of tipping BEFORE a service is something rich people do to get better treatment at a country club or spa,
And even that is bullshit. Just pay your employees a normal salary and employees in turn should give all customers a good service
I never understood these. It’s not like I was provided a service. I feel like I was sold a product.
What, am I supposed to tip Walmart for groceries?
I worked with someone who changed my mind on this. She’d worked the take-out counter at a restaurant and she talked through the kinds of steps she took to ensure the meal was correct, containers were properly sealed, and they had utensils, napkins, sauces, and all the things the customer would need or expect.
Learning about the amount of time and care put in at that restaurant made it clear that it was a service.
I usually give 10% at restaurants with a similar service because of her. With takeaway restaurants where you just order at a counter, though? I generally only tip if the people working were super friendly.
I’d prefer to not have a tipping culture at all. But as long as this is the society we live in, I can afford to pay a couple extra bucks here and there to help people who generally make shit wages.
You just described elements which would meet the bare minimum in delivery of food from the counter.
If the store isn't paying their workers enough to be able to deliver the bare minimum product being sold why should the customer have to make up the difference with a tip
you literally just described the bare minimum expectation for what the customer is buying from that company
When I’m sitting down to a dinner, the bare minimum I expect is food served to my table in a reasonable time, drink refills, etc., but I tip for that service. When I’m at a bar the bare minimum I expect is to receive the drink I ordered, but I tip for that service.
Again, as I said, I would much prefer if tipping were not a part of our culture at all. But I alone will not change that just by shortchanging low-wage employees.
Exactly, and that’s the problem that allowed business owners not to pay their employees enough. Tipping should be reserved for when you’re extremely pleased with the service.
I’m not clear what you’re saying the problem is. The fact that I tip because it’s expected?
Me choosing to follow the system that was in place well before I was born isn’t the problem. The law allows for food service workers to be paid less than minimum wage. If you don’t agree with that, petition the government or boycott restaurants until they change policy; don’t stiff low-wage employees.
I'm confused. Wouldn't ordering takeout at the counter also require the worker to ensure that the meal is correct, containers are properly sealed, and extra items like napkins and sauces are included? I'm not necessarily saying that those duties aren't tip-worthy, but it seems to me that the only difference between ordering online or over the phone vs ordering at the counter is whether they hand you the food directly or put it in a pickup shelf.
I meant a takeout counter like Chipotle or somewhere else that you order and get the food at the same time, not sitting and waiting for an order somewhere.
I guess? I mean, they still follow my directions with what goes into the burrito, wrap it up nice with a sticker to keep it closed when they're done, and ask if I want napkins and utensils if I'm ordering to-go. Seems like the same work but with a shorter time frame.
I did a bit of reading to confirm my understanding, which is that employers can pay below minimum wage when tips are regularly earned by that employee. So technically, baristas, fast food workers, counter-service workers, and the like could fall into that category, but since it’s not a cultural expectation that those employees are tipped on every transaction, I think it would be harder for an employer to justify the regularity of their tip earnings and therefore pay them less than minimum wage.
That’s why, in my personal practice, those tips are optional and based exclusively on above-average service.
When it comes to takeout from a restaurant, there are usually two types of places I go: 1) smaller, individually owned restaurants, or 2) large chain restaurants like the one my coworker had previously worked for.
In the first case, I leave some tip because it’s a small business and I’ve known people who own restaurants and realize how hard a business it is. In the latter, I tip because that coworker told me that her role was paid under the assumption of her receiving tips and I realized there is a service being provided.
Anyway, lots of people seem to be disappointed about my personal choice to tip some types of food service. I appreciate you engaging in a way that doesn’t seem judgmental or defensive.
Gotcha. Yeah, I try to tip based on whether or not the employee's pay is being cut down due to the expectation of tipping. I can't do anything to change the jobs that are already allowed to pay peanuts, but I worry that all of this rise in tipping prompts is to try to make a case that tipping is expected in places like fast food, and will be used to justify paying those workers even less as a result. You're right that it's a lot of work regardless, though.
Uhhh, so they did their job? I had to make 30+ delivery orders a day, some of them with over 50 items. NO TIPS because it was my job to do that and make sure everything the customer paid for is in the bag.
They did their job, yet our government legally allows their employers to not pay them full wages for their work and instead depend on their customers to supplement their wages. If you had a job that was legally allowed to pay you under minimum wage because it expected you to earn money in addition to that, then I would expect you’d get tips too.
Until the laws change in a way that support food service workers better, I’m going to continue to do my part in contributing to their wages.
I'm sure Walmart stock holders would enjoy that.
Local airport has a completely self served kiosk I usually get breakfast in when I travel.
Tips start at 25%
Its on the work card but even then I'd rather hit Custom 0
Ugh, I bet you people don't even tip your landlord.