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[–] DonkMagnum@lemy.lol 3 points 4 days ago

You know how I know there's nothing in this article that pertains to the best interests of Canadians? It's sources are in the real estate industry, the least talented yet most entitled group of "entrepreneurs" the world has thus far produced.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I bought a condo that was part of an HOA. 5 year old construction. Purchased right before covid hit. Within the first year I had a chandelier fall out of the ceiling with no provocation, which I had to pay to fix. Then my 2nd bedroom started leaking from the roof and window during rain. A fucking 5 year old roof should not be leaking. The best part, I couldn't pay to get the roof fixed because it was on the outside of the house and those repairs had to go through the HOA. During covid, I'd be in my garage making art, and people would drive through the cul-de-sac asking if any of the condos were for sale. It was my sign to get out. I hated it so much, still couldn't get my roof fixed, and I still managed to sell it and make 20K profit. Much of the newer construction is absolute trash. Also, fuck HOAs.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Warning for Vancouver real estate as 2,500 condos sit unsold

So prices will go down, right?

...Prices will go down, right?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

there are over 100,000 empty in Ontario.

These idiots who keep telling us housing is priced by supply and demand need to fuck off.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

The market can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

Like. Since all these Ricky dinky pieces of shit started being out I've firmly believed they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen. I feel like the whole fucking real estate market is.

Sooner or later the chickens will come home to roost.

Bkawwwwww

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Economics is only a pseudo-science for the rich. For the poor, it's always an ineffable mystery.

[–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where is your source for this statement?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Cool thanks for the source clown.

I really don't understand, how do people have the gaul to make such an outlandish comment and publish onto the internet? At least try to prove such an outlandish statement with something.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

You're asking for a source for a snide comment "published" on lemmy.

Get a clue.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Industry professionals say unbought condos could lead to big layoffs

Everything is unaffordable, workers are all being laid off, AI is replacing people, minimum wage isn't enough to support a living wage...

What's the capitalist end-game here? A world full of poor, unemployed, desperate people likely won't make shareholders any richer, will it?

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Bold of you to assume any of them are looking past the next quarter or two. Long term survival is secondary to immediate profits, line must go up.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Nobody is at the wheel. Nobody ever was.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that’s not right someone is at the wheel, he’s got his parachute already

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's right. Sure, some people have parachutes. Some people have things that look like parachutes but aren't, or parachutes that don't steer properly. Doesn't mean the plane is crashing on purpose, and not because we're just dumb, even if that's a more comforting possibility.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

maybe you are right, seems i got lost, this is canada’s space.

in america we do have someone at the wheel actively crashing the plane.

sorry for butting in though

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That guy is a moron. I'm not sure he'd know a wheel from his foot. He's just the symptom of a system that's in a death spiral.

Which I'm sorry about. Hopefully we're there as a place to go when things get really bad.

[–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Thank you! I've heard so many Canadians on subreddits want collective punishment and don't want American victims of Trump to come to Canada even though they can be a massive help to both our economy and our weight in the world through higher numbers of educated people (brain gain instead of drain)! Lets not forget 49.9% voted for trump, the rest are fine imo.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Eh, assholes are born everywhere.

Beyond the collective punishment thing, there's also the concern about the effect on housing, which is more reasonable. Either BCH needs to be absolutely roaring by the time a big migration happens, or they're going to have to stay in refugee camps until things slow down. When one of them asks specifically about leaving, I always say bring an RV.

[–] khar21@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah, I agree with everything you said!

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I guess we'll see what happens."

~ Billionaire CEO who can support his family for the next 1,000 generations.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Historically big business wealth only lasts a few, actually. Nepobabies spend big, and each can have several children of their own to which the wealth has to be divided.

[–] khar21@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How dare you use facts and logic! This is whining sublemmy and I find it appalling that you don't just whine like everyone else!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, they all seem to gravitate towards that. Hopefully I'm helping.

Since I've been white knighting for developers and investors up and down this thread, I should probably mention that I still am team eat the rich, or at least team we shouldn't have any rich. The funny thing is that they wish they were evil geniuses, like their opposite number around here seems to want to think.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

What's the capitalist end-game here?

That capitalists maximumize their wealth.

And ultimately that there can be only one, and they all believe that it'll be them

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 30 points 1 week ago

It's a real shock, I know. Who could ever have imagined that building loads of million-dollar condos and endless suburban sprawl would fail to be the answer to our housing problems?

[–] powerofm@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Who could have guessed? The super tiny, yet still branded "luxury" condos, listed at nearly the same as a townhouse, are having troubles selling???

In Burnaby, they're building super high density 400sqft micro apartments as if land is super scarce, while next door are 6000sqft lots of single family houses. Of course older condos are selling better because they're nearly double the size and often low-rises that sit with a community, not among wannabe-downtown skyscrapers.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Oleg Galyuk, real estate agent with Royal Pacific Realty, said in his experience older condos tend to sell better than pre-sale condos.

"The new inventory tends to sit on the market," he said.

He said the layouts of some of the new homes are one reason for lack of buyer interest, as well as a lack of parking spaces that are harder to sell and rent.

Galyuk said developers are throwing out a variety of incentives to get people to buy built units.

"They're throwing in parking stalls. They're throwing in storage lockers. They're giving cash-back on completion."

He said he thinks some developers have put too many eggs into the "investor basket."

"Right now, a lot of condos [are] coming online that people don't really want to live in."

Says it all really

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

“The new inventory tends to sit on the market,” he said.

Because they are too small, and poorly built, a huge liability waiting to happen with no reserve funds to deal with it. Never, ever, buy a new or preconstruction condo, they are basically kickstarter housing.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago

Everyone's saying housing is too expensive, groceries are too expensive. Everything is too expensive. Which is more likely, that all of those many things are ALL too expensive, or just one simple fact, you make too little?

Just bind wages to a real cost of living.

[–] OliveMoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reason older condos/townhouses sell is because they were built when there were inspectors actually doing their jobs. Step-daughter moved into a new teeny-tiny condo, and shower door fell off after 4 months. Gaps developing in the “luxury” vinyl plank flooring. Cupboard doors coming off because screws aren’t long enough. They’re garbage homes.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Doug got rid of all trades inspectors from 2018, so any asshole with a home Depot credit card is now doing plumbing and electrical.

These are Ontario Tofu Dreg projects, years from now they will cost us a fortune to demolish.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You can replace Vancouver for Montreal and you'd have the same thing.

In Montreal we laughed for years at the 1M$ shack or mansions in Vancouver, but now in Montreal an average house is also 1M, it was like 500k 5 years ago. There is something like 3000 empties condos too in Montreal, maybe 10000-12000 airbnb too, and 25-34yo people especially those with spouse/children are leaving Montreal en masse.

It is completely fucked up right now. Rent also doubled. People on minimum wage are making ~2k$/month, an average rent is 2k$/month.

Let's not talk about an average new car at 65k$ and an average used car at 36k$

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

"The cost that is associated with policies at all three levels of government has made it that we can no longer build what people can afford," she said.

I'm curious what she means by this exactly. Non-market housing and art is mentioned later on. Are they expected to pay for that themselves?

It's not like they physically can't build condos people can afford. With no regulations they could build South Korea-style coffin apartments. Nor are they making money from this situation.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“The cost that is associated with policies at all three levels of government has made it that we can no longer build what people can afford,” she said.

Ontario is rife with billionare developers in Vaughan.

But the real point is we cannot build housing relying on private industry any more.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It wouldn't be any cheaper for the government, at least if the government is following the same rules.

Could they build houses? Sure. Will they? BCH is already starting up. Will it solve this particular problem? Not directly.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What the developer is saying is that their private industry can't function anymore and it needs to be nationalized and social housing made a right.

Private industry where it can, social industry where it must.

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