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    [–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    It's insanity. I had to upgrade my work laptop to windows 11 this week.

    IT didn't do their research and turns out our main software isn't compatible with windows 11 at all. So i had to downgrade back to windows 10. When i did, photos don't work and the microsoft store wont open.

    Windows is such a horrible system, i have no idea why they made it so poorly. I could have installed any distro of linux and had it working well in less than 20 minutes. Upgrading to windows 11 took almost 2 hours and it still didn't work.

    Now IT has to scramble to find a solution before the 14th and we lose all security updates, which they are very concerned about. What a nightmare to be in IT.

    [–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

    It’s always a nightmare being in IT lol

    Nobody ever calls to say, β€œHey! Just wanted to let you know that my email is working great, keep up the good work!”

    We only hear from people when shit is broken.

    Being in a windows shop only makes it 100x more difficult and expensive.

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

    sudo nix-channel --update

    sudo nixos-rebuild switch

    [–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    Enough of these dumb memes already. Do we really so desperately need to boost our self esteem that fucking much? Yes Linux has it's cool benefits over Windows. We fucking know.

    [–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

    I agree. Enough with these simple memes - we need full-on propaganda!

    You know what my OS doesn't do? Yeah, exactly. That's the better question now.

    PS I love you

    [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Dont you mean: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

    [–] wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org 10 points 23 hours ago

    Yea apt-get is so 2010

    [–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Click Update and Shut Down

    Windows: Updates and restarts

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    Install Windows - does updates as part of the installation process. Get to desktop and check for updates - more updates to install. Reboot and check for updates again - yet more updates.

    [–] groet@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

    No it will update and once that is done it will shut down. But the update includes a restart so it will restart and then require you to type your password so it can finish the update, after which it will shut down.

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

    Well, true, one of the slowest packaging systems in Linux world is still faster than Windows Update.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Ain't nobody got time for two commands. sudo apt upgrade --update

    [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Are you serious? That's a thing? I've been doing apt update and apt upgrade for years

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Yes.

    Also don't forget && exists for sequential completion of any commands

    [–] MsFlammkuchen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    && executes the second command, if the command before was successful, || executes the second command if the first one was unsuccessful and ; executes the second command regardless of success.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago

    I didn't know any of this, thank you both :)

    [–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    These are much more useful than the :(){ :|:& };: operator

    Fun fact and disclaimer: this is a fork bomb. i tried it to run it on my phone via termux, thinking android would act up and terminate termux; but nope, my phone froze. Thankfully i hard-reset my phone by holding [VOLUME_DOWN]+[POWER] for ~5 seconds.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago

    Expanded it's more clear what's going on.

    bomb() {
        bomb | bomb &
    }
    bomb
    
    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I was doing sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

    [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    I may be totally confused but I've also always done it in that order, otherwise I feel like it would run upgrades from your cache of the apt repos (possibly hitting errors as stuff likes to change), then after it would run apt update (updating the repos).

    My thought has always been update repos, then check those repos for software upgrades. I could definitely be wrong though.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 14 hours ago

    Presumably running upgrade with the update flag does it all in one go.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

    I'm absolutely serious.

    You can also add a package name to install it at the same time as doing the upgrade, though personally I prefer to do that as a separate command so I can see what dependencies are needed.

    [–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 236 points 1 day ago (30 children)

    The poster would be more convincing if you hadn't inverted apt-get update and apt-get upgrade...

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    [–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    dnf5 made this so much more enjoyable

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    [–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    Ain't nobody got time for apt-get. apt all the way.

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    [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Be me -

    Gets the Ok from IT to switch to a Linux Distro for my work desktop.

    Gets the Ok from my direct manager.

    Gets the Ok from our contracts manager who used to be in my direct managers position before.

    Direct manager reaches out to lead developer, who happens to be a windows fanboy, for the web app we use to ensure β€œcompatibility”, gets told to be careful of what I do and our cybersecurity insurance won’t cover it.

    Be me, looking around at all the minuscule pieces of hardware connected to the internet likely running some form of Linux or Unix.

    [–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It's a fucking web app. Make sure it works for a browser. You suck as a web developer if your shit web app needs to work on a specific OS.

    And those are fighting words because I build web apps.

    [–] Technus@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I've started noticing websites just to refuse to work on Linux:

    • Xfinity
    • Microsoft
    • United Airlines
    • American Airlines

    It's not like some weird script error either. It's straight up a 403 Forbidden on certain routes. Works perfectly fine if I switch to my Windows laptop. It's like it took one look at my user agent string and decided I was a bot.

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    [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (7 children)
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    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    Who even uses apt-get these days?

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    [–] Junglist@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    sudo zypper ref && sudo zypper dup

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    Which just sounds ridiculous frankly. Even when you know what it means it still is rediculous.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Is it?

    refresh makes it more clear than update that you're not updating the computer's packages, just the database of packages

    DPKG based distros also need dist-upgrade or full-upgrade, rather than just upgrade, when you are switching versions where removals might be needed

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

    Oh don't get me wrong, I use Suse on a laptop. The commands strike me as funny looking. Like if I didn't know what they did.

    There is nothing more serious than Zypper!

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