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Germany should shut the fuck up and stop treating genocides like fucking pokemon.
Merz and all the other Nazi fucks*
Leave me out of this. I've protested against these cunts.
But who would be last in rankings if Germany won't participate?
UK.
Who also say they won't take part if Israel is excluded
Well that's a real pickle then.
finally someone asking the important questions
Germany should be excluded for supporting Israels war crimes anyway. No need for a boycott.
https://de.euronews.com/2025/10/05/netanjahu-europa-irrelevant-kritik-israel-gaza-trump
In other news, Netanjahu called Europe irrelevant. So I guess its best to relief them from the burden having to participate in an irrelevant contest.
"They (Europe) basically said, let's just give them a Palestinian state, which would be the ultimate reward for Hamas after it committed the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust," Netanyahu said.
I don't understand how accusations of antisemitism can be thrown around when Netanyahu himself refers to those targeted in the attacks as "Jews" (not all I suspect, and he's making a specific point), instead of as "Israelis". Were they targeted because they are Jewish, or Israeli, or what? Are they not Israelis first? How can he just say, "an attack on Jews," if that's not exactly what happened? Plus, people are being punished for made up accusations of antisemitism, while the leader of Israel is just throwing it around no problem himself. That's how I see it.
Always on the wrong side of history...
"If (thing that is unlikely to happen) happens, we will not stand for it!" Good job with the pandering to your base, Fritze.
Eurovision:
This would be an opportunity to hold a referendum to determine whether citizens actually support the German state's shameful and unconditional backing of Israel's criminal regime.
However, I don't think Merz will want to risk that, because then it is entirely possible that the people will send a clear signal against supporting the war criminals in Israel. That would be unprecedented in German politics, because due to German history, pretty much all parties implicitly assume that Germany has such an obligation toward Israel.
Such a referendum could well be an opportunity for the population to tell our politicians to finally take seriously the responsibility that Germany actually has because of its terrible Nazi past - namely, never again fascism, never again genocide, and thus, of course, decisive rejection and active resistance to the actions of Israel, whose government undoubtedly stands for both.
It cannot be ruled out that citizens would agree to Merz's absurd proposal, because the media landscape, including public broadcasting in Germany, is just as completely one-sidedly pro-Israeli as politics, but it could be an opportunity to force both systems to deal with all of Israel's crimes in at least a reasonably objective manner. At the very least, it would draw additional attention to the actual facts, such as:
None of this is reported in Germany in a manner commensurate with the gravity of Israel's crimes against humanity.
A referendum, even if it is based on a ridiculous proposal by our fatuous chancellor, could make it clear that citizens actually decisively reject both the one-sided reporting on Israel's genocide and Germany's raison d'Γ©tat, and thus its tacit support for this horrific regime. It would be an opportunity to tell our politicians once and for all that the people cannot be complicit in the crimes of the State of Israel, but on the contrary expect our government to put a stop to them and finally take the side of those to whom we have a historical responsibility, namely the victims and by no means the perpetrators.
For this reason, Merz will quickly back down if the population would have a say in the matter. If not, all the better: Bring it on, Merz - I dare you!
Where do you see the opportunity to hold a referendum? Especially with Merz and the always spineless SPD, I don't really see them starting a referendum, when they even just stopped the Spahn interrogation in order to get what they want.
I don't see any possibility of this happening either, as I believe that neither Merz nor any other German politician wants to even hear the opinion of the citizens on this issue. These circles have agreed to support Israel no matter what - even in the case of genocide, which they are even willing to actively participate in by suppressing criticism and supplying weapons. I do not claim to know all the reasons why this support is still being maintained instead of denouncing such inhumanity, especially in view of Germany's past. But one thing seems perfectly clear to me: I don't think it has anything to do with the opinion of the population whatsoever.
The more than 60,000 demonstrators who took to the streets in Berlin alone at the end of September to protest Israel's inhumane actions show that many citizens expect and even demand a completely different approach from our government, namely that it finally abandons its shameful pro-Israel stance in the face of the facts and condemn the actions of this state for what they are: state-organized mass murder.
But politicians don't want to know anything about that. They will continue to pretend that their reprehensible actions in this matter are supported by the population - and as this is not the case, they will want to use all means to prevent the population from having the opportunity to express their actual opinion on this matter.
By proposing a referendum on Merz's idiotic initiative, I simply wanted to illustrate that our government's actions are very far removed from what the population actually expects - and that neither the government nor any political party in Germany is willing to represent the interests of the population on this issue. Instead, they will continue to represent the interests of those in power in Israel - against the will of their own population.
So this was just meant to be an example on how our politicians not only don't want to act as the people want but really doing the opposite for reasons that they are not willing to make clear - They just say it's about Germany's historical responsibility, but that's obviously a lie, because our responsibility can never be to condone, defend, or even support genocide - Not even when Israel is the perpetrator.
Maybe one of the reasons has even a name: Ramstein (the military base)
Ah, I had hoped I was missing some knowledge regarding the opportunity... =(
Unfortunately not, I'm sorry if I gave you false hope!
Leaving the last place to the UK unchallenged
Go ahead
The world should if they aren't.
What a twist!
Good riddance
Double whammy!
So... either way, Eurovision is fucked.
The Germans are hoping to win one of these competitions finally. If only enough other countries don't compete, they might stand a chance.
Germany won in 2010. It's been 15 years, but that's far from ancient history.
But that was a freak accident. Germany is the running joke of the competition for usually finishing last or thereabouts.
Since this contest was never bought, we put all our trust into it.
