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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 91 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chat control mandates a piece of software on your device that spies on what you do and sends that to the government and their partners.

Chat control does not protect children.

Chat control is a way for governments to stay in front of any dissent and organizing efforts from it's citizens. This makes it safer and easier to take away rights and ultimately gives a path away from democracy.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what the article says:

What's been nicknamed by its critics, Chat Control, is the European Commission's response to online child safety. As per the latest iteration of the text, all messaging platforms operating in the EU would be obliged to scan all URLs, pictures, and videos shared by their users in the lookout for child sexual abuse material (CSAM).

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

I feel like the execution is going to be on this level:

Ying Jang’s Seefood app

[–] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

S L A M

I really hate modern media. What's wrong with criticise, condemn, or even denounce?

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just you wait until the EU will CLAP BACK at the critics.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Chat Control Slammed, EU Claps Booty

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

https://youtu.be/i9loer9jgUY?j9x1N539_72jjN6

Every time I hear slam all i can think of is this ad

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Lenny@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

In the back of my Dragula 🗣️

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Da da da

Da da da

Make some noise b-boys

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If all parents checked their children device just a bit... I'm struggling to block some yt channels now for example either via DNS or family link, but there's no way. Help parents do these kind of things instead of letting govs go the privacy breach way to make us dumb citizens.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with children. It's a proposal by technologically inept people who argue that encryption needs to be removed but encryption is so basic that it isn't really feasible to do so. You can make the access harder but that is only an issue for your average joe. Individuals with criminal energy who this is supposed to be about will continue to encrypt their communication while regular users will give up their privacy.

At the age of 15 I programmed my own decentralised encrypted messenger from first principles (like did the math from scratch) just to prove how easy it is to do. If a 15year old with no ai can do it then fucking anyone can.

If privacy becomes illegal only criminals will have privacy.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don’t think you can block YouTube channels via DNS.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

insert joke about the OSI model

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Definitely a layer 8 problem

[–] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Are you stupid? There's no layer...
...oh I see.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, I'd rather call it the Ötzi model

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

DNS should allow us to create a blacklist of sites, it would avoid to trash our phone CPU for some useless antivirus, family link (and I guess other MDM) is already enough. If not the DNS, then family link itself.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

But a YouTube “channel” is an application/service specific concept, not exposed in any way dns would be aware of.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Help parents do these kind of things

No offense to parents of Lemmy and I am not generalising too much, but in my experience, many parents are lazy. I'm sure you'd have heard from your own parents or another the expression "didn't they teach you that in school?" Parents pass on the responsibility to someone else who have their own social boundaries when it comes to teaching children.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 2 days ago

That's why I try to push ChromeOS and family link so much, it's the only 100% good thing Google created for free, both for school and family mdm. And once they're e 18 they'll be free to roam with MS, apple, Linux or whatever they want

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

which is not end-to-end encrypted either

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Honestly so many nations are in the same page with this, I think it's preparation for wartime.

You need to not only he able to track down foreign agents, but also yeah strangle dissent and control the narrative.

Not saying it's good one way or the other, but everyone trying to do a similar (hated) thing at the same time is way too coincidental.