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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 19 points 11 months ago

I've been using a MagSafe compatible case on my Pixel, and it's just amazing. It's great that it's becoming standard.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'll be honest, having had something like that in the past and having had it for a kindle... I still don't get the point.

It's... "neat". Neat is how I would describe it. All "ooooh"and "aaaaah". And then you forget about it 5 days later and it would matter fuck all if I had it at that point or not, my brain never actively differentiates the minute detail of engaging charging any more.

Of course that doesn't make it a bad thing either. I just don't get the hype, basically. I suspect it's good if you inherently need the part where it's held still, like in a car mount?

[–] KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You don't get the point of MagSafe?

I have a Pixel Stand and a Quad lock MagSafe wireless charger.

The Pixel stand requires me to place the phone perfectly, and sometimes if I'm half a millimeter off, it'll tell me to align the phone better.

The MagSafe Quad lock snaps into place with magnets and gets full speed charging with no chance of it becoming misaligned.

Would you prefer a screwdriver with a magnetic head, or without? Do you like when your screws fall off?

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just plug a cable in, tbh. Or have a stand the phone sits on, which automatically aligns it with the charging circutry, too.

That's wht I mean. It's neat. It solves the problem of needing a specific stand for a specific phone to ensure alignment. Of course in an age of 3D printing, a 3D-printed stand that aligns the USB-C cable actually works exactly as quick when putting the phone down, so eh. So yeah. Neat. But is it in any way transformative? No, not at all. In fact a day after I no longer notice it existing. Which speaks to good technology, sure, but also means I struggle a bit to understand why people make a bit deal out of:

  • Wireless charging
  • Magneting holders
  • Magneting holders with wireless chargers
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You've never had usb ports fail.

I didn't either until USB C became standard on phones. I've had 3 USB C port failures in 3 years. Wireless charging has saved one phone so far. The others I just replaced.

The other use-case is the car, it's nice to be able to get in and set the phone on the magnetic mount and have it charge without connecting a cable. Makes getting out simpler too. Just grab the phone and go.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve had 3 USB C port failures in 3 years

Then you must be doing something seriously wrong. Are you jamming scissors in here?

[–] Encode1307@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Seriously, I've never had one

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

USB-C likes to get full of dust and is impossible to clean out.

I have dust plugs in mine and just wireless charge because I have also had failures.

[–] claymore@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wouldn't say it's impossible. I've done it pretty often at work (tech support) and at home with sim eject tools, pointy tweezers, knitting needles etc. 5 minutes of patience and the port is like new. Just need to avoid the centre where the contacts are.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

impossible to clean out

Really? How about gently blowing into it?

Also, do you keep sand in your pocket? Like, just how?

I have a phone that is almost 4 years old and had USB-C only laptops since 2014. Not once did I have a problem with dust or let alone any kind of failure of an USB-C port. This is just absurd.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Never had a USB port fail, no. And to be fair, lack of easy repairability is a separate and much bigger problem. On the FP4 I have, I doubt a broken charging port is a big problem, considering how easy the camera was to replace.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I've been using USB-C on all my phones and most laptops since 2015. One of the phones I used for 4 years and plugged in multiple times per day, and I've never had a USB-C port fail.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

How the fuck is that patentable?

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lol, are you joking? I've been 50W wirelessly charging my phone for YEARS. One of my current phones does 67W wireless charging and 120W wired charging. The other does 50W wireless and 67W wired but that's a limitation based on other design features, this is like the bottom spec acceptable now...

The only people excited for 10 year old technology are Apple fanbois that don't understand the world has left them behind.

[–] evident5051@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you really that dense, or are you deliberately missing out every other feature (excluding charging speeds) that Qi2 offers?

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of the features already exist in extended Qi 1.5 standards. These are not new features, they are a consolidation.

And just so we're clear, I've designed in and designed for Qi specs. I'm very familiar with the landscape. It's a marketing nothingburger to appease idiots that don't understand what already exists. You aren't going to get actual new tech in this release or the next (which is already almost finalized just not public).

[–] evident5051@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Qi2 solves two of the biggest issues that many people dislike about - alignment and standardised compatibility.

Heck, even the alignment feature can be inferred from the title.

The main features that so called "idiots" or "fanbois" that are excited for very clearly flew over your head.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wow, which phones do that high wattage with wireless charging?

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

For phones available in the US, the Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro do 18W and 23W wireless charging respectively when using the Pixel Stand 2. I don't really see why you would want to do more when wireless charging is so inefficient and thus generates so much heat. Every high powered wireless charger needs fans to keep both the charger and phone cool enough during charging. Even wired charging can start making a phone heat up quickly above 20W, though PPS chargers that can vary the voltage on the fly have helped improve that situation a lot.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Almost all the phones not destined for the boring American market. Most Xiaomi, Huawei, and Oppo phones as an example.

Xiaomi has demonstrated 200W wired charging (20V @ 10A) and 120W wireless charging which is really 134W wireless charging capable as dual 67W into a 2 cell battery charged independently.

It's amazing and I can't understand life with a 10W charger like apple people or "fast" 15W charging... I can plug in my big foldy phone after draining it on a long flight and get 50% added in 10 minutes. My smaller phone, 100% from dead in less than 15mins. And the batteries still last years. My MI 9 and 11 are still kicking. Those are 3 and 5 years old and abused daily with 100% charging at max wattage.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, color me jealous!

I've looked at a couple Oppo phones, can't remember why I didn't switch to them. Possibly because GSM, and I've had bad experiences with GSM in the US.

[–] Encode1307@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OnePlus phones are rebranded oppo phones now

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, that's right. I couldn't remember who the sister company was. Thanks.