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Ruling in favor of Christian legal group could undermine care and rights for LGBTQ+ youth across the country

US supreme court appears poised to overturn Colorado ban on ‘conversion therapy’ Ruling in favor of Christian legal group could undermine care and rights for LGBTQ+ youth across the country Sam Levin and Rachel Leingang Tue 7 Oct 2025 12.32 EDT Share The US supreme court appeared ready to rule against a Colorado law that bans “conversion therapy” practices that seek to change minors’ sexual orientation or gender identity, repeatedly questioning the state over whether the law hindered free speech and whether these practices have been proven harmful.

The high-stakes case could roll back the rights of LGBTQ+ youth across the country. Colorado is one of more than 20 states in the US that have banned conversion practices, and a ruling in favor of the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a Christian legal group, could make those laws vulnerable to similar challenges.

In Chiles v Salazar, ADF is representing a woman who objected to a 2019 Colorado law outlawing conversion practices for youth under age 18. The law applies to licensed mental health clinicians who seek to change a patient’s gender identity or sexual orientation, discredited tactics that major medical associations have said are ineffective and harmful.

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 96 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago

States rights has always meant that states have the right to do exactly what republicans want them to do, nothing more.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 weeks ago

Turns out everything they ever said was a lie.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It was only ever about states' "right" to be bigoted and otherwise abuse minority populations.

The civil war wasn't even about the North trying to stop slavery in the South. It was about the South not being allowed to force other states to abide by the rules of slavery.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Specifically, they wanted states that had abolished slavery to allow slave catchers to arrest and return escaped slaves within their borders.

Sound familiar?

[–] Sparkles@fedia.io 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Licensing boards should refuse to issue licensure/revoke or suspend based on it causing harm. Therefore, no board certified or licensed therapist could practice lawfully, at the very least.

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes! Those boards have a great deal of power here to de-legitimize these evil quacks. At the very least, keep these monsters in the fringes where they belong. God help us when the NatC’s get enough power to require health insurers to pay for conversion torture.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell yeah. Lets torture some children because they aren’t their parents perfect little cishet angels.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

This from a country that thinks children are their parents' property and not themselves individual people.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Re-education camps for all fascists once Trump is gone pls

[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Throw them in Alligator Alcatraz.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And let the alligators in.

(Not that they eat junk food, but it should be entertaining until they realize that.)

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You want diabetic alligators? Because that's how you get diabetic alligators.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

naw. gators don't eat junk food. Kinda the reason Florida Men are so... you know... common, down there.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

might as well outsource it to chinas, re-education camps.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If this is free speech, then I should be able to exercise my free speech to use conversion therapy on cristians too then?

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

They’d have to revoke Harvey Milk’s psychiatry license.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Christianity is a hate cult. Keep your children, friends & family away from these monsters.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All religions are a mental defect.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Buddhism seems pretty chill now a days

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

There is currently a genocide being perpetuated in Myanmar by Buddhists with religion playing a part of the nationalist identity.

Unfortunately we have yet to find an ideology that we can't use to justify harming those who don't share it

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinhalese_Buddhist_nationalism

Every religion has its assholes. Hate is not inherent to religion in general.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

Clearly civilised society cannot exist if Christians have any power over it.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

fascists don't have AIDS to do the heavy lifting for them this time around, wonder if they are really up for this fight

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

everyone know these "conversion camps" are lgbtq+ go to have sex anyways, so it doesnt deter them anyways, maybe if its the ultra-religious groups.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hey... no. These camps are incredibly harmful and traumatic to the survivors.

I urge you to seek out and listen to them describe the experiences in their own words.

Downplaying this as "lol, they'll all just hook up and have a good time" is disgusting.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They also tend to be full of child molesters as one of the things child molesters often have in common is they are self hating repressed gay people. These places are full of old men who want to sexually abuse young boys. Not to mention that conversion therapy in of itself is child sexual abuse and mentally abusive, by both the families and the freaks running these places. Trump is a giant pedophile. He is protecting the pedophile rings because Trump is a giant pedophile. The child molesters love places like conversion therapy camps because it means both that the parents are extremely stupid, have almost no concern with their child's well being, nor particularly care about them, and also the children are extremely vulnerable and the people who work at places like that which aren't pedos, are borderline retarded. It's like the perfect place for child predators to thrive. This is not an accident but quite intentional. It's a way for Trump's goons to profile and single out people to be abused.