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cross-posted from: https://startrek.website/post/30091443

Note: I'm not casting all Republicans as a "skin of evil" here; I feel many of them are just people trying to make their way in the world whose daily struggles and fears have been amplified manipulated by the "skin of evil", an administration that constantly denies human rights and demonizes (as well as convinces its followers to partake in the demonization of) people who, for the most part, are also just trying to make their way in the world. I've known Republicans, and while the people they give their support to frighten me, most of the ones I've know aren't demons.

EDIT: To be clear, I’m not saying Republican voters did nothing wrong, that they don’t deserve consequences, or that we should avoid making them feel bad. In many ways, the “skin of evil” is their collective wrongs and the way they enabled the current horrors. The evil, however, is a subset of a person (sometimes almost the whole set, though), while the “skin of evil” is the set of evil. Also, I admit I feel a bit on the availability heuristic and that “most of the ones I know” isn’t the strongest evidence.

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[–] TypFaffke@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

Tasha was killed by a MAGA terrorist is now canon

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most of the ones I’ve know aren’t demons.

An interesting notion, which I do not share.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I somewhat rebut that notion, but still, that is brutally funny, so I have to upvote. I have known a decent amount of jerk Republicans as well; one of my university classes is in a room next to where the campus Turning Point meeting is held, and it boils my blood a bit.

Honestly, my response to a comment on the c/risa version of this post pretty much sums up my point, so I won't write it up again: https://startrek.website/post/30091443/19306453

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair, your personal experience is woefully insufficient as a data set to draw such a generous summation of "Republicans", and such blithe optimism often borders on complicity —which I strongly urge you to avoid at all costs. 🙇🏼‍♂️

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 18 hours ago

And another comment, since my other comment is so long: your criticism of the availability heuristic (making conclusions based only on what you’ve seen) is pretty based.

It’s the availability heuristic and the concept of in-group homogeneity that I think have caused a lot of our societal problems; quite honestly, it’s probably the source of almost every human-made problem in history.

Thank you for reminding me not to succumb to that.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 0 points 18 hours ago

When I say “demons”, I mostly mean the kind of people who you wish you could go get a time machine and kill Hitler when he’s 5 or something because his actions are so horrifying (a criteria I think most Republican elected and appointed leaders have been fulfilling for a long time now).

And of course, the kind of Republican voters who kick their kid out of the house because they’re gay or trans are likely on that list (well, except maybe you want to avoid erasing some queer people from the timeline with the aforementioned time travel method, but you get the idea).

I can see what you’re saying, so I want to be clear that I do not absolve Republican voters of their crimes, and my concession is neither a denial that action needs to be taken nor a suggestion that a lot of people don’t deserve consequences. “Not demons” is pretty much the bare minimum for me, of having the minimum shred of decency left in you that allows you to still deserve life.

If my initial words appear to falsely morally equalize both sides, that is not my intent.

I also just view a lot of these people as stuck in a Plato’s cave; they’ve been conditioned by their environment to do what they do, and while it doesn’t make what they do right, it is nonetheless sad to know maybe they never had a chance at doing the right thing and never will.

(Of course, it is incredibly arrogant to assume I’m not in some Plato’s cave of my own; perhaps I am.)

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are we seriously warning people that they might have to see discussion of queer people's right to exist now? Must be nice to be so privileged that this meme upsets you

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Keep in mind large swaths of this country lost their collective shit because a beer company acknowledged a trans person exists.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair, my intent was less because of that and more because at times, some people just want to go to c/TenForward for a bit of escapism, and dark memes may not fit that.

Though you do bring up a good point about a major side effect, and I worry a bit that I’ve succumbed to self-censorship.

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Everything is political, and Star Trek is really political. Any Trekkie who has a problem with politics is a fake fan.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 7 hours ago

True. It really drives me nuts when people whine, “I DOEN’T WACH NUTREK CUZ IT SO POLITICAL”, not realizing the only reason older Trek doesn’t seem political is they watch it out of its contemporary sociopolitical context.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 day ago

No, bad TarTar, drop the YarYar!!

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey Armus, we have your stuff!

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

"What stuff? Stop that! When I find you, I'm gonna kill you with a flake of my power! I am a skin of evil."

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