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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 5 hours ago

I don't have one, but maybe sue for source code?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

That’s always how this rug pull works. Build a dependency than when it’s. It making you rich, kill everything that has that dependency.

I wonder if these could just be flashed with something that uses MQTT.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's why I never went serious into home automation. Because any affordable system is based on cloud shit beyond my control. Cloud goes belly-up, and thousands invested ins such a system are suddenly scrap? Not with me.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't look very hard.

Cheap zigbee stuff exists everywhere. And zigbee is an open standard, so if it works, it will work until the equipment breaks.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but a lot of ZigBee stuff ends up in environments that use a cloud-connected "smart" hub.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

And that's the fault of whoever uses those hubs. You can use practically any zigbee hub you wish. Zigbee is zigbee.

So not further developed, but remotely turning them off because the Logitech board members each want a new yacht? Never again Logitech, your company is poison to me, my family, and my friends now.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I don't get it. Little "drivers" that provide functionality, and then the ability to link button presses to those drivers. And I guess some meta knowledge of ports, standard addresses?

Where is the "requirement" for edge computing? Where is the need for their continuous services?

I thought that most companies doing this at least tacked on extraneous features that then justified their subscription. You're supposed to pretend it's necessary! Did they skip that step?

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago

Logitech used actually be good at this. Look at their squeezebox software and Logitech media server, they were open sourced, released to the public and are still under active development and in widespread use.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who needs any of this digital feces? Not want, but need? I don't have a single problem that can be solved with technology these days.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean your on the internet.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*you're

And the internet was once simply a handful of interconnected university mainframes transferring text. What are we doing right now?

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

*beans

And those mainframes once had my dick in it.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

Explains the smell.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

how many times does logitech specifically, and these companies in general, have to do this before idiots stop buying this shit?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (23 children)

There need to be strong regulations to prevent this sort of Ewaste. As long as companies can get away with this they will.

And no, voting with your pocket book isn't going to change their behavior.

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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ive hated logitech for a while. Looks like my opinion of them wont be changing any time soon. I get no longer supporting products, but bricking them? And then giving a 15% off coupon for some products that they could later brick as well? Youd have to be a right fucking mug to buy anything logitech after this.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Nest bricked my security system (after magically installing Assistant on it [oh by the way it has an undocumented microphone]), at least they gave you $100... in gift cards to the fucking google store. Logitech isn't even that smart.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I get no longer supporting products, but bricking them?

I think what's happening in the background here is these "Internet of Trash" devices hook to cloud infrastructure for which the business no longer wants to pay.

If they were interested in actually building something useful, they would open up their API layers and add a way to link them to different services. But since they don't give a fuck about you as a customer, they plan poorly as a business, and they have no ability to produce well-engineered software, instead they code everything so that it is hopelessly coupled (probably through hard-coded things up to and including certificates) with specific garbage they made, make it impossible to move to anything else, and then brick your shit.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Fine then it's easy everything has to have a local API. One of the reasons I got an ecobee thermostat is the local control through homekit.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 116 points 2 days ago (22 children)

That's the reason why I never buy a smart device I don't control.

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[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

There's a good reason all stuff you buy is zigbee or zwave.

Otherwise this is an inevitably

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Not true if it has local control.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 70 points 2 days ago (3 children)

15% off a logitech device purchase for the complete removal of a 100$ smart switch. that's a slap to the face "Thank's for being a customer here's a coupon you can only use if you continue being a customer"

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