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[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

I didn't realise Muslims were responding to shit like this with "we're not vampires with garlic idiot." But I like it.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

As an exmuslim, I'm disappointed in this comment section.

islam is NOT your friend. Simping for it just shows that you're either ignorant or you're hypocrite with not prinicples. islam, as an ideology is so unbelievably vile that it's a very strong contender for being the worst ideology in history. Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.

This is not just me making things up, I can literally show you either verses from the quran, sahih hadiths, or both explicitly allow and encourage every single one of these. I'm against bigotry and bigots, however, I am also against those who cover for them. In this case, islam is just as bigoted, if not more bigoted, than the person in the post, and the people covering for islam aren't any better. I will always stand tall and proud on the side of people who exercise their right to free speech to criticize islam, and expose the religion for what it is, despite the dangers of doing so.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I agree with you and would expand that to cover most major religions, particularly the abrahamic ones.

I also think bigotry is evil because it's blind hatred of anyone belonging to a group. There are decent enough people that are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Admittedly most don't closely follow their religion (particularly the fucked up parts) -- but they still identify as such.

There's a difference between attacking a belief system and attacking huge, diverse groups of people. Somehow I don't think Ultra Nuclear's intent was the former.

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.

so the same as every other abrahamic religion?

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Sounds like Christianity to me! Judging by the bible that I read 4 times. Literally my second most read book.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I find it very frustrating how islam, and only islam, gets excused for all the shit it has. There will always be someone rushing in to defend it with type of pointless nonsense. islam is bad on its own merits, you don't need to defend on meaningless generalizations. Just because other religions have their own shitty verses that does NOT excuse, justify, or negate what's in islam. People can and should criticize it on its own for what it is.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for your perspective, I feel like I hear a lot about exMormon and exCatholic but not much about exIslam

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago

Under His Eye

Unrelated Image for fun, Blessed Are the Meek

[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

I thought this we were a bit more cultured, better informed people than reddit, but after reading the amount of ignorant and absolute bigoted comments on this post, apparently we're definitely not an inch better

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What's amazing is that people have time to mind other people's business.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Its always jarring to see bigots disgrace just the Quran and Islam.

I'd argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology and commit nearly identical atrocities as any radical Islamic Jihadist.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I’d argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology

Literally identical bibliography up to a point. The Bible is a sacred text within Islam as well (although not in any condition an American evangelical could stomach reading, on account of it not being in English).

It's the interpretation that drives a wedge between them. Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet, but reject the Nicean Creed (just like Jews).

commit nearly identical atrocities

The idea that religion causes atrocities requires a particular blindness to cataclysmic violence during secular eras. It's not religion that's getting Dems and Repubs alike to sponsor the Israeli genocide of Palestine, for instance. This is entirely rooted in the geopolitics of the oil trade through the Suez Canal.

Fear, bigotry, misinformation, and the mass hysteria of modern warfare are fully decoupled from secular traditions. Atheists like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens have been as zealous in their advocacy of this barbarism as dogmatic Catholics and Muslims, like Pope Francis and Salman al-Dayah have been advocates for peace.

The idea that you can eliminate war through apostasy went out the window 60 years ago, during the height of the Soviet Era. War has an entirely materialist causation.

[–] Saffire@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Well Islam is an offshoot of Christianity, so it makes sense that they're basically the same thing.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I've always said both Christianity and Islam are my enemy. Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids. The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago. I think Islam still needs that lesson.

Regardless, fuck them both. Sky daddy worshipping death cults.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids.

Religious institutions have been at the foundation of modern scientific scholarship for centuries. Meanwhile, merely avoiding a formal religious indoctrination does nothing to improve your education or steer you clear of superstition.

And there's no shortage of apostate child fuckers. Epstein's island had academics and influencers of every stripe.

Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago

To the secular financial system, where all the child fucking happens.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago

My dude, are you seeing what's happening in the US? What types of people are most passionately supporting Israel?

Shit, are you seeing the rampant rise of the far right accross Europe and Australia and some of their biggest backers?

That shit ain't happening because of Muslims. The Christian Jihadists are back and are making serious gains.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tehran in the 1970s would have been a beautiful way to show how modern lifestyles and islamic culture could co-exist, much in the same way that Christianity was treated in the West all the way up to 2015.

Ah well, I guess there's still Istanbul, and I guess the West can still potentially pull themselves away from the right-wing christian fundamentalism they're currently embracing

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Tehran in the 1970s would have been a beautiful way to show how modern lifestyles and islamic culture could co-exist

Celebrating the Shah's Iran for it's secularism is a bit like celebrating Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for it's capitalism.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I thought that happened in '79

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

The Shah of Iran couped the democratic government in 1953 and enacted a brutal military dictatorship that was not overthrown until '79.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbf the problem was always race rather than religion.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well yeah. Hate directed towards Muslims is 99% hate against brown people in a thinly veiled disguise.

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[–] F_State@midwest.social 85 points 1 day ago (44 children)

Burning a Quran because you hate Muslims is bigoted but burning a Quran (or any holy text) because the priestly class is how the ruling class maintains control over the working class in almost every society and religion is tool of oppression is a chad move.

The bacon thing is a dead giveaway that this is bigotry.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Lol the best part is that she forces them to learn something.

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