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What is the quintessential lisp experience? (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by Manifoldsqr@alien.top to c/lisp
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Hello, what is the quintessential lisp experience?

Is it the interactivity that is enabled by Common Lisp? So if this is the case could you say a bit about how SLIME + Common Lisp work together to experience the beauty of lisp experience?

Moreover if macros are the killer feature of lisp because you can extend the language and make dsls wouldn’t racket offer a quintessential lisp experience?

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[–] fediverser@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

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[–] KaranasToll@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lisp is ahead of every other programming language. It used to be if-conditionals, garbage collection, and functional programming. Now the main lisp exclusives are the condition system and and macros that are both easy and powerful. If you want the lisp experience, write a macro and when the debuggers stops you during testing, recompile the macro, recompile the function which uses the macro, and restart from the most recent stack frame.

[–] na85@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Writing your own library for because there are 3 different half-finished ones, none of which is feature complete and none of which have been maintained in years.

[–] nakuaga@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now there are 4 different half-finished ones, none of which is feature complete and none of which have been maintained in years

[–] WaitingForTheClouds@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, if they were written with standard CL, they probably all still work.

[–] na85@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If by "work" you mean "compile", then sure.

[–] Shinmera@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

My own experience is usually more that there's 0.

[–] corbasai@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Space-cadet Keyboard was qui quo ... was coolest CL thing imo

[–] bekorchi@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's debating why lisp is better than other languages. Or feeling empty when using a non-lisp language and wishing to be able to use Common Lisp instead.