I can't tell if this is anti ml or anti ml haters
Lefty Memes
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
Agitprop (I.E. everything that would be more fitting on a poster than a meme) goes here.
Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.
If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.
Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!
Rules
0. Only post socialist memes
That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme. Please post agitprop here)
0.5 [Provisional Rule] Use alt text or image descriptions to allow greater accessibility
(Please take a look at our wiki page for the guidelines on how to actually write alternative text!)
We require alternative text (from now referred to as "alt text") to be added to all posts/comments containing media, such as images, animated GIFs, videos, audio files, and custom emojis.
EDIT: For files you share in the comments, a simple summary should be enough if they’re too complex.
We are committed to social equity and to reducing barriers of entry, including (digital) communication and culture. It takes each of us only a few moments to make a whole world of content (more) accessible to a bunch of folks.
When alt text is absent, a reminder will be issued. If you don't add the missing alt text within 48 hours, the post will be removed. No hard feelings.
0.5.1 Style tip about abbreviations and short forms
When writing stuff like "lol" and "iirc", it's a good idea to try and replace those with their all caps counterpart
- ofc => OFC
- af = AF
- ok => OK
- lol => LOL
- bc => BC
- bs => BS
- iirc => IIRC
- cia => CIA
- nato => Nato (you don't spell it when talking, right?)
- usa => USA
- prc => PRC
- etc.
Why? Because otherwise (AFAIK), screen readers will try to read them out as actually words instead of spelling them
1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)
6. Don't irrationally idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
- Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:
- Racism
- Sexism
- Queerphobia
- Ableism
- Classism
- Rape or assault
- Genocide/ethnic cleansing or (mass) deportations
- Fascism
- (National) chauvinism
- Orientalism
- Colonialism or Imperialism (and their neo- counterparts)
- Zionism
- Religious fundamentalism of any kind
well, judging from the DPRK gooning in their profile, I'm guessing the latter.
they're on .ml and made posts about taiwan not being a real country so this is just a tankie post
Dream on, tankie - the failure of your excuse for an ideology is total.
If we're talking about an Immortal Science, why hasn't it advanced in the last 100ish years? Why did it simply stay with Lenin?
Meanwhile, on planet Earth, every Marxist Revolutionary movement since 1960 (with notable exceptions that chart their own path,) learns more from Mao.
Take your vanguard, wrap it in 5th column tactics, and teach it about this magical fucking thing called:
"Consent."
And then do this actual work of Learning From Mistakes.
Congrats, you have graduated to the Mass Line instead of the thing Trotskyists demonstrate over and over is vulnerable to Fash infiltration.
THEN you can call your ideology "Scientific" without everyone else in the Left giggling at you.
MLs don't reject Mao, MLs reject the idea that concepts like Protracted People's War and Cultural Revolution are universally applicable, rather than being more suited to China's conditions as a primarily agrarian country pre-revolution. Marxism-Leninism has continued to evolve over time, and much of it does take from Mao without thinking there's going to be a Protracted People's War in the US. The reason Maoism is popular in areas like where the Naxalites have power is due to their material conditions more closely aligning with China's conditions during their revolution, not due to the inherent universality of Mao's application of Marxism-Leninism towards China's conditions.
Even the Mass Line is adopted by some Marxist-Leninist orgs, like FRSO.
Why was this downvoted, out of curiosity?
I stopped asking because I usually just get downvoted too without any answers
Tankieposting outside of .ml is always, without fail, engagement bait. Whenever this happens, and a discussion brews in the comment section, it's the .ml users who show up to shit all over it, so people stopped engaging with it. Hope that helps!
And yet Maosism has shown it is the superior successor.