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So I just started messing around with the settings in my windows and account tied to it. And good Lord, this thing's just as bad as Android. 😒 ? The thing is literally saving all my inquiries and everything to my Microsoft account. I can't even turn off some of these features as far as trying to stop them. Many privacy settings are also buried all over the place. When did this happen?

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago

ms was already wiretapped by the nsa in the XP era, according to snowden.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really kicked in with Windows 8 though, that's when they started pushing the Microsoft Store app to install programs. If I recall correctly Secure Boot also became the standard requirement to install Windows in 8.1.

In other words, began with 7 but kicked into high gear with 8.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

But up until recently you could download packages and utilities directly from their site, now you are forced to do it through Microsoft Store. I just started this new Win11 laptop and right after debloating the shit out of it I noticed the updates didn't install HEIC and AV1 codecs and there was no way for me to install them without getting Microsoft Store back, so I restored it and downloaded them and then removed Microsoft Store... guess what? Removing it removed the downloads as well lol

[–] NKBTN@feddit.uk 2 points 20 hours ago

Fucking hell

[–] colournoun@beehaw.org 14 points 1 day ago
[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

It was the switch to Microsoft accounts. Everyone started using online accounts to login and when people complained apple said “okay, you don’t need to and here’s some ways to make it safer” after some high profile leaks, google said “we’ll anonymize your data so when we use it for tracking it’s not tied to you, also here’s some ways to make it safer” after everyone realized they weren’t not being evil and Microsoft said “are you fucking stupid? It says right there in the tos that we’re gonna take and use everything!”.

Go to massgrave.dev and start reading. Convert your Microsoft account to a local user account. You will still have a Microsoft account but you won’t use it to login. You will lose access to stuff you bought under your Microsoft account until you sign in. This may or may not be acceptable to you.

Use your knowledge from massgrave to convert your windows edition to enterprise iot ltsc if you’re on 21h2, otherwise either downgrade or flatten and reinstall that edition. You will now be able to receive security updates and stay on windows 10.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

One that's out of breath?

[–] arox@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

I think the op meant when did

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Inquiring minds want to know.

Years ago. Like post xp. MS hates its customers and it shows.

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

If u are okay with piracy download windows server edition and u can use it very different

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

When it became the dominate OS run by a greedy corporation.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Windows 10 or 11?

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You might wanna check out this link
Not a perfect solution by any means but at least it makes Windows more privacy-friendly if you want to.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you use something like simplewall or Portmaster you can block every OS communication with the mothership and make it look like you are offline for them :)
Probably soon they are making it that you can't use Windows offline though lol

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 3 points 14 hours ago

I just set a static IP in Windows, then block that IP from the internet in my OpenWRT firewall.