What is going on? I've been very disappointed this morning
context: Hyprland/DHH is a very toxic and right wing community
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look like it or not (and trust me, I don't) unfortunately Hyprland is the best (while buggy best) WM for Wayland. And trust me, I've tried them all. The majority of the things just work right out of the box with hyprland. your next best option is Sway but if you're on Nvidia then you're essentially on your own as far as official support goes. Everything else? nothing comes close. It's not like x11 WMs where you have plenty of good and working options, it's just not there for wayland. sooooo everyone uses Hyprland.
The ease of use, the fact a good majority of things just work, and the vast amount of documentation/support for Hyprland puts it miles ahead of any competition. And considering the douchnozzle of a dev behind it, that sucks.
River is fine, but there's some things on river that just won't work. for the life of me I can't figure out how to get xfreerdp to work on River and their multimonitor implementation is bleh. Sway is fine but like I said if you have Nvidia then they don't like you. Niri is frustrating. and the rest are just meh. IF Cagebreak decided to get off their high horse and actually implement wlroots/layer than THAT would be the go to WM but that's not going to happen. So Unfortunately we're left with hyprland for now until something like COSMIC matures OR implements as much customization as hyprland which I doubt will happen.
The wayland landscape for WMs/Compositors absolutely sucks. Sorry but that's just my personal honest opinion. And because of how my main laptop is setup I HAVE to use wayland so please if someone has a better tiling option than Hyprland that isn't Sway then I'm all ears.
That is highly subjective. But I'm sad you haven't found any alternative.
it's my dumb laptop in all honesty. it's a hybrid amd/nvidia so on x11 I can't game at all. which sucks cause I REALLY love Herbstluftwm. And due to my work I need tiling so for now I've settled on COSMIC. it's beta, it's buggy, the panel crashes randomly, can't change the font to my liking but it's pretty much my only working option on my current rig. I've tried KDE Plasma 6 with Krohnkite but that's just a mess and also buggy for simply tiling.
The thing is I could use Hyprland, I know it works, I know it works well but I just don't agree with the lead dev on anything and I don't want to use something that goes against what I believe in. Hell I even tried building my own wayland wm.
actually been fighting with that all morning and I'm just about to give up. I don't understand why my tiles will stack one on top of the other on one monitor but on the second monitor they dwindle.
+1 for dwl, it's been much less of a hassle to setup and use than hyprland, especially for gaming where game windows behaved really weird under hyprland. Granted it's been about a year and a half since I made the switch so hyprland might be better than it was now.
If you're fine with using cosmic then KDE should be fine
What about qtile, which works under Wayland too. It's not native Wayland, but does that matter?
That message looks cutesy and whimsical, but would be hard to understand for users with a limited command of English. Though given that it’s Hyprland, concern for the untermenschen is probably not to be expected
For comparison here's the error message KDE displays in the same situation: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/15477a5/screen_locker_is_broken/
I believe it has no localization support, but the language is clearer and the command it tells you to run is much simpler. A big problem with it is that Ctrl-Alt-F2 does not actually get you to a working TTY on many distros -- e.g. on Fedora TTY1 is SDDM and TTY2 is the DE -- and the error message is not adjusted based on which TTY is which.
Fucking thank you so much I've spent the last hour trying to find this out lmao, but I couldn't find it by searching "what is fedora tty1" for some reason.
I tried tty2 (as all online advice says to try): nothing. So I tried tty3, and it worked! But then I tried to switch "back" to my GUI using tty7, blinking cursor. Fuck. Went back to 3, tried 2 and breathed a sigh of relief as I saw my GUI lmao, then tried them all. But then began the quest to learn why tty1 and tty7 are different.
So, tty1 is SDDM, can I ask what that is? I see:
SDDM is a modern graphical display manager aiming to be fast, simple and beautiful. It uses modern technologies like QtQuick, which in turn gives the designer the ability to create smooth, animated user interfaces.
But uuhhhh... what? I see no graphicals only the blinky cursor. And is tty7 that also?
SDDM is the login screen, but when you're already logged in it's not going to display anything. If you reboot your computer SDDM is what you see before you start KDE. If you use Gnome then this will be different because Gnome doesn't use SDDM.
Ah so that's why flashy line, am already logged in to KDE. I guess when I log in the system auto switches me from tty1 login to tty2 KDE? But then why does tty7 have the same flashy line, both can't be login, can they?
I don't know what TTY7 is, but if I had to guess I'd say Plymouth, which is the graphical loading screen that covers the boot messages.
Ah that'd make sense, thanks! Idk why I can't find the info anywhere online, it has to be in the fedora docs somewhere!
Edit: Ok 1 is definitely the login screen, just tried before login. 7? Remains to be seen but I bet you're right, prob plymouth.
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*Clutches pearls*
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You limey buzztard!
Hyperlenol sounds like its gonna give me autism
I can't take anyone seriously who claims to be/promote foss and then uses IG.
I mean it make sense, if you want to preach you gonna have to be in the place where crowd exists, telling people about how good FOSS is in pixelfed doesn't have the same reach and just preaching to the choir.
I imagine it's more like this
Preaching to an existing crowd makes sense too. So they do not lose confidence and believe. The hardest part isn't to convert, but to keep them.
Then maybe the comprise is preaching to both crowds, until the desired platform becomes bigger. Yes, FOSS devs and projects should promote on FOSS services to make them more lively, but they should also acknowledge that many of those who they need to bring over probably are unaware on the main service.
Either that or just try your best to convince people in real life, although many of us don't have enough charisma for that...
"A doctor must go where the sick people are"
If they promoted it on another FOSS platform, nobody would see it.
It's so user friendly. It tells you exactly what to do to solve the problem. Switch to a tty (if that even works on your system) and log in, type this long command from memory, making sure not to mistake those 0s for Os or the Unicode left single quote for back tick, restart your lockscreen, which of course you know how to do, and then come back. If that doesn't work, start terminating some processes and praying.
It says you can return using "ctrl+alt+F[N] where N is the tty number in the top left corner." I can't find my F0 key.
Tbf I'd take a pic of the command, or failing that, write it down, before switching.
My issue is "am noob, how login? And how switch back?" Lol. This post made me realize I need to learn how to do that now before I'm faced with a situation where I have to, so that's good!
I need to learn how to do that now before I’m faced with a situation where I have to,
+1
Got it now! For some reason, the internet seems to think my GUI is on tty7, but it's on tty2, and on tty1 I only get a blinking cursor, but on the rest (besides the GUI) I get the "sysname login:" prompt. I'm sure this is a fedora thing but I can't find out why it switched, or why tty1 shows up different.
Explains why "switch to tty2" has never worked for me though, because I was already on it and I need to switch to 3!
Edit: okay comment below says tty1 is SDDM. What's that? Idfk. It's a "graphical display manager" but all I see is a lone blinky line that seems fairly ungraphical. Also, tty7 shows the same blinky line, also SDDM? The world may never know. man ssdm seems to indicate it's a user called sddm, whom I need to add to the video group and then I'll see... something? Maybe?
I remember the "switch to tty2" thing too, from old glory Ubuntu days (I mean decade ago at least). Nowadays when I switch to a different tty, it feels like stuff is assigned randomly. Honestly I never got that deep into it to study and don't understand it fully myself. So don't ask me about details, I would probably look goofy then.
SDDM is a popular graphical display manager used by KDE as the default, because their previous house made display manager didn't support Wayland. Gnome has GDM (do they still?) and there are bunch of others. You can switch the display manager too, I think KDE even offers builtin option to change, but I'm not sure right now. The name display manager is a bit confusing, because its about your user login with graphical interface.
I saw something similar on KDE Plasma.
Admittedly, a sadface would make it much better.
If you're able to give precise instructions on what to do to resolve the issue, then couldn't you also automate it and make it seamless from the user's perspective?
These steps require logging in again. I don't think it's secure to have it automatically try and fix the lock screen, since it just introduces more ways to potentially bypass it.
A background process monitoring the login screen doesn't have to "log in again"
The user does have to log in again to access the second TTY. I don't know exactly what Hyprland's settings do, ~~but "allow_session_lock_restore" doesn't sound like something you want turning on randomly while an attacker is sitting trying to access your computer.~~ It's very possible the crash itself was caused intentionally by the attacker in that case.
Edit: Nevermind "allow_session_lock_restore" is just for saving open windows and stuff, so not really an issue. Restarting the lock screen however is very much not something you want to do while trying to keep an attacker out of your computer.
Or do this and never deal with this again
exec-once = while ! hyprlock -c ~/.config/hypr/hyprlock/hyprlock-startup.conf > /dev/null; do sleep 0.01 > /dev/null; done > /dev/null
exec-once = swayidle timeout 600 'pidof hyprlock || ( hyprlock -c ~/.config/hypr/hyprlock/hyprlock-screenshot.conf --grace 59 > /dev/null || while ! hyprlock -c ~/.config/hypr/hyprlock/hyprlock-startup.conf > /dev/null; do sleep 0.01 > /dev/null; done > /dev/null )'