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The Supreme Court said Wednesday it will consider whether to restrict access to a widely used abortion drug — even in states where the procedure is still allowed.

The case concerns the drug mifepristone that — when coupled with another drug — is one of the most common abortion methods in the United States.

The decision means the conservative-leaning court will again wade into the abortion debate after overturning Roe v. Wade last year, altering the landscape of abortion rights nationwide and triggering more than half the states to outlaw or severely restrict the procedure.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 127 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This will eventually extend to birth control.

Just you wait.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

Supreme court: Imaginary babies are still babies

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago

And there's a million things I haven't banned.

Just you wait, just youuu waaait.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 67 points 2 years ago (4 children)

They brought upon themselves an unusual position of ruling on abortion access even after its conservative majority declared that it would leave that question to the states.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To which it isn't authorized to rule because that falls to the FDA. They are religious zealots and not qualified to rule on medicine.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If this is actually successful, expect republicans to begin going after more fda approvals in the courts for things like hiv medications or vaccines. Anything that appeals to their religious zealot base, doesn't matter how many people they harm.

Edit: Didn't think of this originally, and not strictly related to abortion access debate, but the ruling as it stands could allow for pharmaceutical companies to sue each other and try to overturn the approvals of competitors' drugs. It's just such an unfathomably bad ruling on soooooo many levels.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

That is because the conservative majority are a bunch of hypocritical lying liars.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 66 points 2 years ago
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The constitution says nothing about this. Which means any ruling is judicial overstep

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That would mean Federal Agencies would be beyond Judicial review. You sure that's what you want?

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Supreme Court, NOT medical professionals, will get to decide what life saving medications YOU get to take! It's a good thing they aren't corrupt and we're appointed on merit without lying!

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

go buy plan b while you can guys

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

now in fairness, it's because these people who are not at all trained in medicine or experimental design think that the people whose training and careers are exclusively in medicine and experimental design may have done it wrong.

part of the republican strategy for getting their wildly unpopular agenda through nationwide has been making sure that anyone anywhere is allowed to make a legally-enforcable decision IF they agree with it, but ensuring that no amount of expertise or personal stake qualifies you to make the opposite decision. Multiple doctors agree that your pregnancy is non-viable? Doesn't matter, a city councilperson whose highest education is a GED has decided that doesn't qualify you for an exception to their abortion laws. The opinion of several doctors, the patient and the patient's parents is that the patient is trans? Not good enough, a complete stranger who knows neither you or anything that they're talking about said "no". You want books in your kids' school library? Only if they're approved by the Karenest Karen to ever Karen. It's designed to be a ratchet effect. Anyone can turn the dial to the right, no one can turn it back to the left, they call it "freedom" and the absolute monsters they're appealing to love it because the only freedoms they care about are the freedom to do what they want and the freedom to force everyone else to do what they want.

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[–] Laughbone@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Capitalism needs meat for the grinder I guess? Can’t wait to see the court restrict this then let those Purdue pharma fuck heads off the hook for unleashing a plague on humanity .

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[–] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

I thought their whole reason behind repealing Roe v. Wade was about "letting the states decide." Of course that was total bullshit, otherwise this wouldn't even be a question.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I suspect the Court is politically savvy enough to avoid making mifepristone illegal right before the election. They'll make a soft open-ended decision that leaves it unrestricted and come back to it in a few years, then make it illegal.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have you been living under a rock for the last couple of decades? The newest chucklefucks appointed to SCOTUS don't give two shits about appearances and will do whatever they want at any time.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They care a lot about appearances, what they don't care about is actual popular opinion or democracy.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If they cared about appearances they'd adopt a code of ethics.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

They did though, right?

One that has no mechanisms of enforcement, which makes it exclusively about appearances.

I think you have a good point though: we shouldn't be surprised when they make another egregious ruling.

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So is anyone gonna organize smuggling of mifepristone before they ban it or what?

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure you'd like to know, officer. /s

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not American so maybe someone can explain this, the way your supreme court works sounds insane to me. Like what power does the US supreme court have that they can just ban drugs? Also what is stopping the states from just ignoring them on decisions like this?

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Legislative branch writes the laws. Judicial branch interprets them. Executive branch executes/enforces them.

SCOTUS's power comes from judicial review and precedent. They can't make arbitrary decisions on arbitrary things. Someone has to bring a case through a ton of appeals and different courts, then SCOTUS can rule on their interpretation of the law and write one or more essays explaining why and the nuances of their decisions. Those decisions are then examples/precedents that are followed by lower courts in future cases, until someone goes through the process again and SCOTUS decides to take the case and change the precedent, which is even more difficult and rare.

In this case, it sounds like they're arguing over if the FDA did their legally required due diligence. If not, then their approval is null and void, so the drug is banned.

A bunch of things stop states from ignoring their decisions. In this case, any company making the drug is not going to value it as worth the risk so it probably won't even make it to court again.

Some federal laws are tied to federal funding. For example, the 21 drinking age is tied to funding for roads. States can choose to set the age to 18, but they lose out on funding.

States can decide to just ignore federal law and get away with it, so long as it's not something the federal government is willing to fight for. For example, states legalize Marijuana essentially by deciding to just ignore the federal ban. The federal government doesn't care enough to send in their own anti-weed police or to pass legislation to force states to ban it again.

It even applies at the federal level. The executive branch can decide to just ignore SCOTUS and do their own thing. For example, SCOTUS ruled in favor of Native American's rights but Andrew Jackson ignored it and did the Trail of Tears anyway (he kicked tons of natives off their land with no shortage of human suffering and death along the way). The Legislative branch can fight against the Executive branch by withholding funding, but the Judicial branch doesn't have any such "stick".

It's rare that situations happen where branches fight against each other or states defy the federal government, but it's not unheaed of. It's all part of the checks and balances. In any case, it needs to stay within some realm of reasonableness in order to get buy-in from other government officials and the populace as a whole.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

By all fucking means, do it, fash.

This lying & fuckery combined with the shit show that just occurred in Texas will give us a Federal trifecta in 2025 & then we will can start impeaching & incarcerating these corrupt & unqualified "justices".

Polling has been proven to be complete garbage since 2019. The GOP have caught the car & they are about to get pulled under the political tire.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some trolling individual is going to use this precident to ban Viagra

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

How long is this nonsense going to last? Or are all the judges too young to fuck off and be replaced?

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're not too young to be drug out into the street and executed.

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