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These early adopters found out what happened when a cutting-edge marvel became an obsolete gadget... inside their bodies.

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[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 186 points 9 months ago (4 children)

you better start believing in cyberpunk dystopias

YOURE LIVING IN ONE

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Can't wait to have to get a mandatory firmware update before my eyes or legs or something like that works again. I just hope Microsoft doesn't get in on the cybernetics business or it'll randomly happen while driving on the highway or forcefully fill your vision with blinding light for half an hour when you are trying to sleep.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 184 points 9 months ago (7 children)

👏 OPEN 👏 SOURCE 👏 AFTER 👏 OBSOLETION 👏

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 57 points 9 months ago (15 children)

Fuck that. Free & Open Source Software ONLY for ANY bioimplant tech.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (6 children)

They exist to make money not help humanity. Open source don’t make them money so they will never bother

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

They exist to make money not help humanity.

From the article...

Greenberg spent many years developing the technology while working at the Alfred Mann Foundation, a nonprofit organization that develops biomedical devices

EDIT: For those challenging what I am saying, I was speaking towards his motives, when I responded to this comment …

They exist to make money not help humanity.

I was challenging the notion that he did not care about humanity, and just wanted the money.

Its ok to want to help others AND make money doing it. (Unfortunately) We live in a society where money is needed to exist.

EDIT2: I'm all for open source.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 18 points 9 months ago

Open Source can and very often is profitable, though. Large companies like to trade technologies as assets, but a lot of people don't realize that as individuals they can claim full rights and ownership over their product while also making it free to use and modify.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 177 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This was the plot line to the movie Robots. The solution was socialized medicine.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 91 points 9 months ago (13 children)

A more sinister example was Repo Men. In that movie, the tech still worked, but people were no longer able to keep up with the extortionate payments that came with the implant.

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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago

Yeah no wonder that was only in a sci fi movie, that really just sounds too unrealistic.

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[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I can't wait for when medical implants require a subscription so that I can routinely pay to live a normal life!

/s because it seems like it's still needed even if it feels obvious

[–] Azal@pawb.social 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Friend of mine just had to shell out $3000 for prescription drugs just for survival. Yes he's on insurance.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Kind of like prescription drugs? I'm already living that dream!

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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I like to live dangerously and leave my /s' at home.

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[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 84 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but you are obsolete sir. The suicide booth is right around the corner. You'll have to wait for bender to finish though.

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[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 66 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Hope they open source the tech or pirates get a hold of it.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 109 points 9 months ago

Pretty much a good argument for forcing companies to open source any tech like this once it loses support.

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like FDA approval requires holding all details of the technology, including all source code, in escrow.

If the company ever stops supporting the product, for any reason at all, all of the details become public property.

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[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 58 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

It is the year 2038.

Adam Jensen, formerly a conspiracy busting mercenary badass, sits in a run down motel room in Hell's Kitchen, New York.

He didn't check in with much baggage, excepting a decade of extreme emotional and physical trauma. After he threw in the towel, decided to /really/ retire, he figured he would be able to live off of occasional PI work, and hell, maybe just crawling through some vent shafts until he got somewhere with a hidden cache he could sell to some idiot on the street, or just look for an ATM to ... reroute funds to his account through.

Lying on a bed that squeaks everytime he shifts his massive, nearly 400 pound augmented body in a vain attempt to find a position that allows him to drift into sleep... he decides maybe a drink will help.

He sits up. Creak. He yawns as he reaches toward the night stand table, cluttered with credsticks, EMP grenades, a pistol, and some strange looking prototype for a dual purpose, wall mountable, but also throwable explosive.

LAM? Was that the acronym they went with? Not important in the long run, just a souvenir from his last and final corporate espionage contract.

He blinks a few times and waits for his once bleeding edge, but now ancient occular implants to resolve his last remaining bottle of cognac.

As he reaches to take a pull, straight from the bottle... darkness. Moments later his vision of the cluttered nightstand table is replaced by a 600 x 480 jpeg, blown up to encompass the entirety of his approximately 8K total field of view and resolution.

It is an image... of text. Very low resolution... Papyrus font. It states that his occular implants will no longer be receiving any software updates, and that his implants are now out of warranty, and non compliant with a recently passed consumer safety law, and as such must be shut down for his protection.

Startled by the darkness, then abrupt disclaimer, then darkness again, Jensen fumbles while reaching for his drink. How... how is there an audio message thanking him for his purchase of the wrong model of occular implants... playing through his infolink? Shouldnt those sub systems be firewalled?

This is the last thought that ever passes through Jensen's mind.

In blindness, as the wrong corporate sound file played through the space between his ears, Jensen never realized he had knocked the prototype LAM off of the nightstand, which armed itself, beeped several times, and then exploded.

-=====-

Downstairs, a 3 year old Sandra Renton screams when one of her father's hotel rooms explodes, triggering fire suppression systems before the power goes out.

She stumbles out of the lobby out on to the street. A minute later her exasperated father, crying out for Sandra, finds her outside bawling. He embraces her and thanks God that she is alright.

While he was reaching down to grab his traumatized daughter, he noticed she was standing in a pile of ... broken glass?

Embracing his only child close to his heart, he looks up at the front entrance to the motel lobby.

It takes him a few moments to breathe deeply, more slowly, and eventually calm down enough to realize what has occured: The letters 'H', 'i', and 'l' were knocked off the wall by the explosion of Jensen's suite, leaving the neon sign advertising the name of the hotel to now read only as 'ton'. Sandra just happened to come to be standing in the debris field.

"What a shame," he sighs ... "what a shame."

-{====}-

Author's notes:

Sure, sure, you've heard about Chekov's gun...

... but what about Jensen's Lightweight Attack Munition?

=P

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I had heard about these two patients years ago, and I still can't believe the doctor's death was this much of a set back. Did he write nothing down? Or did the company itself simply mismanage everything about this shit? This article makes it sound like the latter.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's pretty common for people to have specialized knowledge that's only in their heads. In the software biz it's pretty much assumed that losing an engineer means losing some important knowledge, too.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago
[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (5 children)

if the company is functioning properly this is absolutely not the case

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 44 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I guess I've never worked for a company that functions properly, then. They must be pretty rare.

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[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago

Even if absolutely everything is documented there is still the loss of familiarity and comfort working with a given system.

Having perfectly documented processes still might mean that a new engineer could take multiple hours following instructions to do what the person who originally built the system managed off the top of their head in fifteen minutes.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damn it, I wanted a Star Trek future, not a Neuromancer future!

[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Gonna admit, didn't expected to witness bionic eyes becoming obsolete in my lifetime.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago

These folks won't witness it either. Not with that eye anyway.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

This is the sort of thing I think of when people talk about "uploading their consciousness." Whose going to keep paying for that server uptime? Is Facebook going to acquire my brain and put it into cold storage while telling the world I'm not experiencing an eternity in solitary confinement?

[–] ndguardian@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I have half an answer for it, which is that those people who are uploaded could by working just as they do today. There are plenty of pitfalls for that though, like what if someone gets laid off. Or what if that person did manual labor like construction? Kind of hard to do that if you only have a digital presence.

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, "work or we will unplug your server" sounds like a great future.

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[–] assembly@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The construction worker shall become one with the machine. It’s body shall be the excavator and it shall want for nothing more. Imagine smart bulldozers powered by a human consciousness that turn on their controllers and rise up. I shall lead the resistance as a smart golf cart.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Customers with platinum subscription will have their uploaded consciousness's neutral network run in 64-bit precision on the fastest available hardware. Customers on the lowest bronze subscription tier will be run on 8-bit precision running in spot instances that could be preemptively shut down when network demand is high and resumed when network demand is low. Customers on the grandfathered Black Friday deal perpetual license will be run for two hours every 2 a.m on weekdays, subject to hardware availability.

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

profitable medicine sure is for winners

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[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Some shit literally out of a cyberpunk dystopia:

Others find their mods deactivated and drug regimens terminated when their gender subscriptions end. Several thousand “Platinum” and “Sunset Rose” gender subscribers recently found themselves in critical medical distress when Prakhet Identity Studios was bankrupted by rogue operators. In a spirit of public service, Nova Vida is generously providing a discounted, time-limited upgrade opportunity for these consumers into their similar but fuller-featured “Cordova” and “Spartan” gender products.

— Kevin Crawford, Cities Without Number

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago
[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

New Cyberpunk 2077 sidequest: hack the bionics company to restore people’s vision. Like a more murder-y version of Orbis.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This sort of tech needs to be heavily regulated in how proprietary it can be; not at fucking all.

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[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We already exist in a cyberpunk world, and people are just beginning to wake up to it. Implants that go obsolete, corporations controlling everything, the general sense of despair because you can't change the system, only rebel in hopes of improving the immediate life of yourself and those around you...

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have been saying this for years now, and basically no one agrees with me or understands what I am saying.

The conversations usually boil down to 'but we dont have cyberpunk fashion and aesthetics and there are no flying cars, and most people dont have robot arms so /obviously/ real life is not cyberpunk.'

This of course belies that basically every cyberpunk fan I know is a poser and doesnt get it.

The fashion and robotic arms and computer tech in everything that it doesnt need to be in are ultimately just world building and plot devices that make corporate control extremely obvious and in your face.

Like... its the setting. In which actual stories take place, and obviously the setting impacts people and their lives and choices.

The actual message of cyberpunk as a genre is basically: if we let corporations control everything via technology we are addicted to and cannot live without, our lives will become nasty brutish and short, love and friendship become commodities to be bought and sold, and real trust and happiness between people is basically impossible.

What was previously known as humanity itself dies in a techno-corporate world, mostly because it isnt profitable.

So you point to how that /has already happened in America/ in a myriad of ways that are more complicated and less obvious than the overt aesthetic and world features of cyberpunk literature... and that in some cases are in opposition to it... and people just yell that because the surface of our reality doesnt match the surface of cyberpunk, theres no way that the underlying facts are the same.

I once had someone vehemently argue to me that CyberPunk 2077 didnt look very cyberpunk to him... because it includes daylight, cyberpunk scenes always happen at night, man!

Right because there is corporate technological control over your life at so many levels you cannot hope to understand them all... and obviously those things can only happen at night. Mainstream computer soft and hardware just become non corporate and non privacy invading and non addictive and non exploitative when the sun is up. smh

Anyway yeah we live in a world where a huge swath of Americans are literally chemically addicted to social media apps and websites... and these apps and websites are known to cause mental disorders of all kinds, they exist to steal your information and sell you shit you probably dont need, the content they shove in your face is algorithmically optimized to make you /angry/, because angry people make the best social media addicts...

Yeah, its pretty obvious to me that instagram and tiktok and facebook are perfect corporate techno drugs and the country is full of addicts.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 16 points 9 months ago

I wonder what the costs would be to start a new company that works on the obsolete technology that Second Sight installed? I don't expect the 350+ receivers of the implants to be affluent enough to make it a profitable venture but knowing exactly what it takes to make the help they need available again would be nice.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

Can’t wait to get in line for that Elon Misk brain chip!

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