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[–] jof@lemmy.world 246 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Crazy this is a thing actually being rolled out and it hasn't hit world headlines.

Europe, USA and other countries are not far behind this initiative once they (governments) see how even more successful it is for collecting and sorting data to control citizens.

Time to go to GrapheneOS folks.

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 83 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Just wait until they fine you for noncompliance

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This was my exact thought. I remember the 90s.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We had 10¢ pay phones back then though.

Everyone had landlines too. Ya, very different times.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They seem to have plans for those types too.
Withdrawing cash is going to be taxed.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What does withdrawing cash have to do with owning a phone?

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you have a smartphone, you get to use UPI (United Payments Interface).
If you don't, you are basically limited to a certain amount of free withdrawal per month, which is set to prevent getting an outcry from BPL (below poverty line) people, which would otherwise be bad for elections.

I was considering pushing for open source UPI apps for Linux devices (and providing my services for development), to reduce India's reliance on Google and Android but considering recent events, I believe that is not really going to align with the Government's plans.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aah you talking India specific, I was talking from a European perspective given the context of the posts I replied to originally.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

no phones = you cannot create a bank account

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[–] jof@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Basically :/

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the dwindling amount of phones that will allow you to install GOS on them?

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

GOS has partnered with an OEM so we may end up with GOS on more phone models.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

Nah, they're mostly just going to endlessly harass you for it and wait for you to bribe them.
They will randomly send dacoits in uniform to beat you up and jail you and make it harder for you to earn a living until they get their ~~birthright~~ bribes.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Use a tablet with a MiFi router. The hostile network starts there.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Time to go to GrapheneOS folks

I mean, it has been, for a long time, but this is not why. According to the article you can simply uninstall the app.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bet you are going to have the app installed and scanned for every government service you want to use (including leaving the country).

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe but that is yet another problem that GOS won't solve.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could I not just set up another profile in GOS with this app installed and switch to that profile when it's needed?

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[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

I've read about it in three different places this morning, I don't live in India. I thi I it's hit "world headlines"

BBC had an article this morning. I follow them for a different perspective on North American news.

[–] jimbroof@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Can't speak for Europe but the USA already has this, only instead of a playstore app it's a collection of backdoors and hacking tools, and they're installed without our knowledge or consent by military intelligence institutions.

[–] jof@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes I watched a few videos about the NSA’s hacker group, TAO, and how they exploited backdoors and zero day exploits like crazy but without our knowledge. Went unknown for some 15 years til Snowden blew the whistle.

Scary stuff man.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol when this inevitably get backdoored/exploited, it's gonna be glorious

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

Oh it probably already is just look up the test run they did with their covid app

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 103 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just saw and ranted about this. I HATE THIS FUCKING FASCIST GOVERNMENT WITH EVERY FIBER OF BY BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

at this pace you are going to be sent to a concentration camp soon

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I lowkey expect every modern device to be compromised (unless you're running custom roms). Whether it's Pegasus or something else. Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether.

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago

Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether

Even if you can't, minimizing smartphone use, uptime and carrying mitigates some of the risk

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago

Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether.

Just make sure your pagers are not backdoored with Semtex either.

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you think every phone has some sort of IME, installing a custom ROM means nothing.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A phone's baseband (modem) runs its own proprietary firmware with full RAM access.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This doesn't make sense to me.
Why do they even need it to be that way?

Compartmentalisations was one of the basic points in system design methodology that I thought (because I read it somewhere) smartphones would also be built upon. So why compromise the whole thing to a supply chain attack?

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why do they even need it to be that way?

so that they can surveil you

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They cannot get rid of the caste system but can successfully surveil 90% of the population

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 week ago

India saw Britain and said "I'm not going to let my former colonisers out do me."

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 week ago

This is just another crowdstrike incident in the making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_outages

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 week ago

Reuters cited sources to report that US tech giant Apple plans not to comply with the mandate and will convey the same to New Delhi

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago

How do the corporations feel about this when they have workers in India?

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

You can get a Nokia flip phone on Amazon for under $100. Before all the tariff BS it was more like $60. My daughter has been using one exclusively for about six months.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

The modified (Modi-fied?) offer of it now being optional is ridiculous. Keep protesting the policy my brothers and sisters.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does the iOS one get this sweeping access to everything as well (which would require Apple to specifically give it entitlements)?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 week ago

Reuters cited sources to report that US tech giant Apple plans not to comply with the mandate and will convey the same to New Delhi.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 12 points 1 week ago

Cool..how can I get it?

They too should suffer my endless search history for obscurities. I want them to download all of my USB storage of virus infected malware. I will sit idly and tap my fingertips against each other while my SMS messages corrupt their society from within.

[–] redparadise@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like the backlash has made them reassure us that it IS OPTIONAL for now...

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[–] saibhargav@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I use Custom Rom(LineageOS)

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