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[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 139 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, my understanding is that the Simp is all alone?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are being serious, please find some local in person hobby groups that interest you and join them. It's absolutely worth it.

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[–] X@piefed.world 32 points 1 month ago

Being that size can be really fucking intimidating to others.

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

SIMP? More like PGTOW (Planets Going Their Own Way)

This planet is no orbiter.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I hate that I laughed at that

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 month ago (6 children)

So, my understanding of auroras is, the planet's magnetic field draws particles emitted by the sun toward the poles, and as those particles interact with the atmosphere they glow. So without a star and thus without solar wind, where do the aurora come from?

[–] Gust@piefed.social 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, it has a magnetic field 6 or 7 orders of magnitude higher than ours. Id guess that extra strength allows it to pull particles from much further away and possibly from sources much more reticent to give up their particles than solar wind

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Both the magnetic field strength and charged particle flux fall off proportional to the square of the distance from the planet / star respectively, so I doubt it gets much of anything even with a strong magnetic field unless it’s also near a star.

I’d also point out that the particles aren’t really attracted by the earths magnetic field, we’re just in the pathway, and the magnetic field funnels them to the poles. It’s more guidance than attraction.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If the rogue planet is truly all alone in space, you're definitely right. 4 million times is a lot, but space is really, really big, and solar radiation falls off with 1/r^2.

Let's assume the auroras are proportional to the size of the magnetic field. That's probably not true, it's probably actually proportional to the square root of the magnetic field because field strengths fall off with 1/r^2, but let's give it the best possible chance of having huge auroras. That would mean that a planet with 4x the magnetic field of Earth would have the same Aurora brightness at 2x the distance. So, something with 4 million times the magnetic field would have the same brightness at sqrt(4,000,000) the earth-to-sun distance, or 2000x the distance. If it were in our solar system, or even just near our solar system, it would be bright. But, space is big.

Since the earth is about 500 light-seconds from the sun, 2000 earth-distances is about 1 million light seconds, or about 11.5 days. By comparison, the closest star to Sol is Proxima Centauri at 4 light years. So, these Auroras would only be earth-like if the rogue planet were very close to some star. It wouldn't have to necessarily be in orbit of that star, but it would have to be pretty close. If it were out in the space between the stars, there's just nothing there for the magnetic field to interact with.

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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 12 points 1 month ago

Im guessing it only occurs when it is in a cloud or trail of charged particles. or perhaps there is a local (climatic?) cycle that sends charged particles to the poles.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Wikipedia linked in these comments says it is likely from electron precipitation. Basically the magnetic field traps free elections and thus "wiggles" as they interact with the field. This can make a (pulsed) radio jet shooting from the pole, which is how this planet was observed. These electrons can fine from atmospheric phenomena such as lightning or large storms.

Earth has the same but much weaker phenomenon, the Van Allen belt, which was a difficult challenge to handle in the early days of space exploration.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

wtf,they have several classifications.

  • free-floating planetary-mass object
  • exoplanet
  • rogue planet
  • brown dwarf

welcome to science where theres names, AND acknowledgement that things change with new data

[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Strangely attracted to distant stars yet unable to establish a stable orbit, Simp 0136 is condemned to a lonely existence.

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[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Strangely Independent Massive Planet - Simp

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

wait is this real or a joke? do we have a new planet that I've never heard of??

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 69 points 1 month ago

This planet isn't in our solar system. We've found 6,053 exoplanets already, so it's a safe bet that there's lots more of them than you're aware of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exoplanet

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We have discovered over 6000 exoplanets in total, and over 100 in this year. I'd be surprised if you knew of all of them

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[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

Galaxy, not Solar System. There are a lot of planets in our galaxy that you’ve probably never heard of

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Interesting, I just finished reading Rendezvous With Rama.

If a massive object like that was to pass through our neighbourhood I think it could fling planets out of the solar system.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Even with this mass this planet would have to pass one of the outer planets extremely close and quite slowly to have a chance of dragging a planet out of the solar system.

This is the same sort of idea as when galaxies merge. There is little chance of our solar system being effected in that scenario. There is just too much space to space.

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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's one of my very favorite books. It's fantastic at setting the mood. The further books are ok but not as much to my taste.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I still need to read the book! My main familiarity with RAMA is the 199(5?) PC game that was mind bogglingly obtuse with math puzzles but the world was SO fascinating! I need to figure out how to play it again with my grown up brain...

The soundtrack was INCREDIBLE...

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maybe we could attract it with an OnlyFans subscription.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Planets Only - Adult Swim

Young, dumb, and not-orbiting a sun... ;)

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[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ofc the simp is cucked in the corner not allowed to join the orgy of planets.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago

Borg Sphere Model 2025

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So how come there's an aurora when there's no star to spray it with electromagnetic radiation?

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Because the planet produces its own radiation. That much mass means this is less a "planet" and more of a proto star. It's actually large enough to fuse deuterium if the right conditions arise. Pour enough hydrogen in there to raise the mass three of four times what it has now and it'd be comparable to our sun.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Name seems wrong but you do you, SIMP 0136

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Likely a brown dwarf or magnetar

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like a brown dwarf, especially from the Wiki page

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

I was going to say, I read somewhere at uni that if Jupiter was 14 times as large, it would have become a brown dwarf.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

He's just jealous 'cause the dorks on Earth called him a failed star.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Lonely queen.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Welcome to 2016. Mike brown and Konstantin Batygin basically proved that the only way we could explain the orbits of Pluto and other KBO was a massive 9th, yet to be discovered rogue planet more than likely ejected from our inner solar system during planet formation.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Simping for magnetism

My new band name

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's looks like a picture of Jupiter, or an artists impression of it, and there's a star needed for an aurora to happen.

Any scientific sources to back this story up?

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 16 points 1 month ago

No it is indeed an artists impression of the planet - it's on the wiki page.

I'm assuming that aurora only needs solar wind to happen on earth - or that solar wind outside the heliosphere is strong enough you don't need a star for it to happen.

In 2018 astronomers said "Detecting SIMP J01365663+0933473 with the VLA through its auroral radio emission, also means that we may have a new way of detecting exoplanets, including the elusive rogue ones not orbiting a parent star ...

[–] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The picture is definitely just some artist's conception, but it's not claimed to be a photo or meant to be anything other than what it is, an artist's conception. You're right that for the most part, a star is needed for aurora, at least for the kind of aurora we have on Earth since it depends on the solar wind interacting with the planet's magnetic field. But if there is anything that can be said about what we've discovered astronomically in the last century or so it's that there are always exceptions to every supposed rule.

The authors attribute the auroras to SIMP-0136’s magnetic field being vastly more powerful than Jupiter’s (750 times stronger according to a previous study). Electrons (presumably stripped from atoms by internal processes) would flow with the field and hit atmospheric molecules fast enough to make them glow, they conclude.

Aside from the aurora part though, none of this is exceptional or rare (and maybe even the aurora part isn't rare either). Rogue planets are probably extremely common, possibly even more common than planets that are gravitationally bound in a star system. And objects of this size, which is really around where we'd start calling it a brown dwarf, are also very common, with more of them than there are main sequence stars.

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

simp 0136 really needs love. seriously!

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