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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wasn't this the main selling point of the cybertruck, almost verbatim?

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 15 points 2 days ago

Yeah, that shit was so disgusting. Your car will just drive over the other car in case of an apocalypse. In an accident, it will just be the other guys problem

That's why i don't feel bad for the idiots who bought the Reichs mobile

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Maybe. But in reality people in Cybertruck are more prone to die from the collision than anyone in a similar sized car.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because...the exoskelton design does not disperse energy in a collision, so that energy is transfered to the Nazis in the cabin.

While Musk sold the idea of bulletproof windows, those would be illegal because EMTs could not use then in an emergency. Side windows are supposed to break. His syncophants at Tesla were too scared to tell him his idea was stupid, so he threw a bearing through the window live.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Sure, but it's the "thought" that counts.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Probably because they think seatbelts are woke.

[–] Killer57@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Which has been hilarious when put into practice, as seen pictured is a cybertruck leaving its rear axle behind after a collision.

Edit: I posted this as a reply to the comment of driving over someone else.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 106 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I have literally heard a Jeep owner express such an attitude. Not specifically that the other family would die and theirs would not, but that theirs would be minimally damaged and the other would be crushed.

This was on a date. I obviously did not go on a second date with her. This was a big ass red flag.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

Which is wild because it's a Jeep.

How is it going to make it all the way to the scene of the accident?

I've never seen a more unreliable POS in my life.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

I also stopped dating someone immediately after their attitude on SUVs came out. Dealbreaker

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It’s a surprise to hear how many truck/SUV owners are women. The theory delivered has been that women generally feel unsafe in the open due to misogynistic behavior as well as rare cases of road rage, and so a big tough car acts as a “safety blanket” - so even in traffic when surrounded, they can feel control and ownership of their space.

That’s a stretched theory but it could make sense.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You clearly don't know many fairly well-off (or aspirationally well-off) women / mothers, if this is surprising to you.

Its not a theory. Its... many of them will just tell you that, verbatim, if you ask them.

"I just don't feel safe in a smaller car."

Its a primary component of the marketing angle the US entire auto industry has been using to market to 'the affluent careerist modern woman' / 'responsible and practical mom' for ... two decades now?

Big car = You are safe.

(and stylish or powerful or practical or eco-conscious or rugged or w/e other adjective)

For moms, an SUV is a minivan from the 90s, but with more style and performance.

For yuppie women, an SUV is a luxury sedan or coupe, but tank-sized, more authority commanding, more intimidating.

(Modern US SUVs are routinely as large or larger than actual M4 Sherman tanks from WW2, sans cannon barrel, if you go by volume, 'bounding box')

... I'm surprised that you're surprised by this.


With women truck drivers, I can understand that somewhat more, as you apparently just don't know too many white trash women, who are disproportionately Republican.

Makes sense here on lemmy.

For the entire MAGA type of people, well, trucks are real cars, everything else is "gay" or at least not as strong, or capable.

... even though that hardly ever actually is the case in any kind of practical or realistic terms.


Its all marketing, all appealing to the consumer, in ways said consumer both does and does not realize they are being appealed to.

It's all about how buying, "owning", and operating some kind of vehicle makes you feel, and what your exact choice, what message you think that sends to other people.

Here, I found this after writing my first section, and its almost verbatim what I said:

https://agirlsguidetocars.com/women-driving-suv-sales

Safety matters most for women

Married and single women love SUVs for many reasons. They are multi-purpose and, depending on your needs, come in varying sizes. If you have a family, an SUV is easy to drive and still provides room for the kids, the soccer balls and your groceries – and it’s so much cooler than a minivan.

For single women, the same multi-purpose features are attractive. The interior of an SUV is spacious and the elevation in the vehicle provides a better view of the road. The SUVs are also durable, reliable and most of all safe. And safety ranks higher with women than with men. Maybe it’s our nurturing nature – whether we’re nurturing our kids or our friends.

Yeah that's from 2016.

This has just been how SUV marketing in particular has worked basically since I got out of high school. almost 20 years ago now.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

kinda wild how weaponized psychology is, and everyone kind of thinks they're immune to it themselves till one day it smacks em in the face

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

What do you think psych majors do when they want to make a lot of money?

They go into marketing.

Marketing is literally just the corporate wing of "you are not immune to propoganda."

Modern, psychology based propoganda techniques were originally pioneered for marketing purposes, then later adapted to politics.

Look up Freud's nephew, Eddie Bernays (sp?), and how he basically co-opted the Suffragette movement in the US to establish cigarettes as 'Torches of Freedom', thus making it hip, rebellious, and progressive for women to smoke, where previously this was largely seen as unwomanly behavior.

Net result?

Tobacco companies now have a whole new market demo to play with, sell to.

... Corporations have had over 100 years of practice at this, and now, they have an actually unimaginable amount of data, from our social media-ized digital age to become exceedingly efficient at pushing what they want.

You think its an accident that various content 'pipelines' exist on video platforms?

That corpo social media in general promotes anger and division in the general populace?

That shortform video social media actually does rot your brain, cause an actual biological addiction, destroy your attention span and ability to focus?

No. They know it does all these things, in astounding detail, with incredible levels of statistical certainty. Tiktok and Facebook definitely have been sued for knowing that they are doing this, ... their whole marketing business model based on statistical profiling models requires them to know this, theres no way they could have the data and algos they do and not know this.

They're engineering consumers' brains into what they want, what they can make money selling to.

We basically already live in the Matrix: It's called omnipresent advertising.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

oh trust me, i know it. adhd/autism combo...ads crafted over centuries to grab your attention are pretty much impossible for me to ignore and i hate it

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

Well then, I guess you would agree with me that We Are Not Their Kind Of People.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

People are sold on the idea that bigger vehicles are safer. Complete lie:

  1. They take longer distances to stop

  2. They do not have to meet safety standards of cars due to a regualtory loophole.

  3. They flip much easier because of the high centre of mass, and this is worse with stuff in the truck. It gets much worse with the lifting trend. So lifters then space out the wheels, which is not what the suspension was designed for and suspension arms and hubs crack.

  4. Some have 16 ft front blind spots, people are running over their own children in driveways.

  5. They are worse in snow and ice, because chunky man tires are not winter rated and heavier vehicles slide off roads easier.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

the middle aged white woman with bleached blonde hair and designer clothes in a big white SUV is such an interesting trend

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This honestly sounds likely. My step-mother, in the 80s, said something like this when she got an SUV (before the term had even kicked in). She felt safer and more confident being higher than the rest of the traffic. I "get it", but it's a race to the bottom (or top?). Maybe if they get tall enough, some of us can get ultra efficient and low profile wedge shaped cars and just dodge underneath these gigantic abominations.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to see more cars with a wedge shape, extremely tough body, and explosive flipping mechanism.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Taller vehicles, driven standing up like a speedboat. Hurrr

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's fine for Mad Max style extended chases where you want to board other vehicles, but in a head-on collision a wedge is going to win every time. Taller vehicles are just easier to flip.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

I remember decades ago, even before the SUV mania, a colleague of mine who was this little woman and drove a large all terrain car (in the city) because "it made her feel safe".

As it turns those vehicles had a higher likelihood for the driver to lose control and roll-over than normal cars.

It's a mix of stupid and selfishness to the point of Evil.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reason #39476 that the Toyota Hilux will never make it onto 'Murican shores.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tbf the newer mainline Hiluxes have also turned into bloated monstrosities, so much so that Toyota developed an entirely separate Hilux "Champ" model to serve as a light workhorse truck

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What is the perfect bumper height to make sure I decapitate a ten year old?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you can add cool wheels to grind that child first. Completely legal.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Completely legal.

You gotta be kidding! Quote from the dutch -mandatory- annual car inspection (known as APK) which is actually an European directive, So it applies to every EU country


External safety including wheel and side guards 

1. Passenger cars must not have sharp parts 
that could pose a risk of personal injury 
to other road users in the event of a collision.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Terrifying fact, I see them a lot on semi trucks. Not the cab over kind, the ones with the big hood in front.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Haha you think EU people want to buy this? Naw, this is good ol American murder tires.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 16 points 3 days ago

Dodge ram and up.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

I mean that's really what you want to do.

You wouldn't want her to live life as a cripple so better to just bump it up a little bit and ensure a clean death.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I thought of you all the other day when somebody in a newer pickup truck got behind me driving my Mazda 3. I didn't take a photo in my rear view mirror because safe driving and all that, but I felt like I was living in some kind of AI generated c/fuckcars meme.

In my mirror the front of the truck looked like a WALL the height of a grown adult with a little thin stripe of windshield above it. AND there was a big hood scoop on top of that. The little stripe of windshield was like 10'/3m behind the wall at the front of the truck too, just to make the visibility as dangerous as possible.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yep it's absolutely ridiculous

I've got a car with 8 inches of ground clearance, that can carry 8ft dimensional lumber inside the vehicle, tow a thousand pounds of material in my relatively lightweight trailer, make it through snowstorms to ski hills and muddy fields and some ATV tracks, tow other vehicles up steep slippery inclines, haul full size BBQs and similar fully assembled inside the vehicle, and yet I pull up alongside a newer generation of the same model and their window bottom is at my eye level. or a pickup is on my ass and I can't see anything but the lower half of the grill, and its headlights are shining directly into my car and leaving a crisp white line on the headliner from through my rear window.

also obligatory fuck your Mazda too, if you have a newer one with LED headlights. if not, disregard. I miss my '08 Mazda3, even if it did suck in the snow. mostly my fault for using regular size and width winter tires. but seriously, fuck Mazda's LED headlights. I've seen it twice already this year that a pedestrian was nearly run over in a crosswalk because a driver couldn't see them due to a Mazda3 on the other side of the four way stop.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fortunately my Mazda 3 is over a decade old and the headlights are actually too dim if anything. I need to polish the housings too. It sucks to hear that they are jumping on the annoying blinding headlight bandwagon along with some other brands though. They seem to do a lot of little things right in their designs.

I've posted a couple times about how I load 8' dimensional lumber into my Mazda3 as well, lol. Usually the people around me are driving their giant trucks and not loading jack shit into them.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

yeah you can fit 8ft lumber into a Yaris two door hatchback. it's easier than sticking out the back of a truck bed lmao

I do remember having to polish the headlights on my mazda3, as well as pretty much every car that gets to be over 10-15 years old. the Mazda headlight shape was easy, Subaru's is annoying to sand and polish because of all the curves.

I always enjoy turning heads at home depot when loading up.

it is disappointing about Mazda. they were among the first to go back to physical controls and whatnot. but unfortunately the headlights are a dealbreaker, it's just too goddamn obnoxious and dangerous

[–] Armageddon@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Around here, the bigger the cars gets, the lower the speed limit. In the end, the harm to a pedestrian equals car mass multiplied with car speed. One goes up so the other one goes down to compensate. Have fun driving that tank like a snail.

[–] randy@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where is "here" for you? I've never heard of a place with variable speed limits.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Here is Western Europe. It's not variable. It's the new limit for everyone. 30 kph popping up everywhere now.

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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, your average cybertruck owner.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Works better for pick-up trucks in general, a cybertruck will probably kill you along with the people in the other car.

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[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Personally I just look for a vehicle with the brightest headlights. /s

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