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A new, thinner XPS 13 is also coming later this year.

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[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Ha, I thought a 1Hz display was a typo until I read the article - that's the minimum display update, not the maximum: for situations when nothing's changing on the screen to save battery life.

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[–] cambodia@lemmy.world 63 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Replacing the function keys with a capacitive bar was the stupidest thing they have ever done. So silly that even Apple walked back on that design choice.

Any serious laptop buyer would rule out a laptop just for that. And any casual buyer looking to spend XPS money on a laptop is going to buy a MacBook.

I'm glad the XPS line is back but unfortunately for Dell Windows is worse than ever.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

When I last bought an XPS 13, there was an option for Ubuntu. I agree that many people will choose a Macbook, but the XPS line has been decent. Perhaps someday they will discover the third OS option.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And the worst part is, Apple has a lot more influence over software on MacOS than Dell does over software on Windows. Meaning Apple was able to influence at least some (though not most by any measure) 3rd party developers to make the touchbar context aware. I somehow doubt Dell had any such luck, so it would've been even worse than the Apple touchbar which was already shit.

In fact, had Apple included it in their whole lineup for a few years, it could've actually been useful. But Airs and 2 TBT3 13" Pros never got it, neither did the ubercrappy 12". A huge issue was the lack of adoption by developers (because to make it truly useful, they'd have to customize the touchbar for their application), but why would the developers have been motivated to do it if the thing wasn't even on every new device sold.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

My work gave me a Mac with this. I absolutely hated it - constantly triggering random things I didn't want or need and apparently something about the wiring caused the physical keyboard to fail prematurely.

Fortunately we've moved on from those dark days. I still have to use a Mac, but at least there's no touch bar.

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[–] 2910000@lemmy.world 78 points 5 days ago (3 children)

1 Hz display option: like an e-Ink display?

(it says 120Hz in the article)

[–] eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca 67 points 5 days ago (18 children)

They might mean down to 1hz like some smart phones do, to save battery.

[–] 2910000@lemmy.world 73 points 5 days ago

There's a 1920 x 1200 non-touch display option, which will surely get you better battery life than OLED. But what's most interesting about it is the 1-120 Hz variable refresh rate, which Dell says is a first to for this model. That extremely low refresh should help save power when static images or text is on the screen.

Ah yeah, I should have read the rest of the article. I didn't know about that feature though, that's cool

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[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Build quality for Dell is down over the past few years

[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Hijacking top comment to report that: This is true across the industry for (most) OEMs

The Secret is to buy "Enterprise level"

Check out the LATITUDE line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Latitude

Those are enterprise fleet laptops ... the ones they have to support for 5-10 years.

You know which line they don't discontinue parts for? You know which line has repair manuals and driver updates available? wanna take a wild guess which line is usually more modular and powerful at the expense of being less sleek looking and thin?

And the best part is that you can usually buy them fairly cheap if you find them used.

I prefer Dell Latitude to HP Elitebook, Thinkpads are OK too but they've gone down in quality a lot since they got bought by Lenovo

TL;DR = Buy an enterprise level laptop, consumer line laptops are all trash,

[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Replying to my own comment to give yall one more tidbit.

The latitude product nomenclature is still standard

  • 2 first digits of the model number are the "class" the higher the laptop the more high end
  • last 2 digits of the model number are the generation (we are current in 60)

So for example the Latitude 9460 is the very high end laptop that came out at the beginning of this year while the 3540 was the entry level economy latitude that came out in 2023

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[–] edg@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lenovo has been making thinkpads for 20 years. The complaint that their quality is still less than how laptops were manufactured 2 decades ago feels rather dated.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Oh my god this post made me feel ancient, I was still thinking that was like 10 years tops. 💀

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Top tip, buy a used enterprise laptop. You can get one hell of a deal when big companies throw their entire lineup out after a few years and flood the market. Some have a few scuffs here and there, but others are mint after sitting plugged to a dock for the last three years in a row.
Might need a new battery though, so research how easy it's to swap and calculate that in the cost just in case.

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[–] nettie@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I'll never buy an xps again. Last one needed pretty much everything replacing, and within 3 years dell stopped manufacturing the battery!!

$2k on a laptop that's a brick within 3 years?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (16 children)
[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I cancelled my framework 16 order because of their "big tent" policy meaning they give funding to Hyperland and Omarchy, I will not give my money to people who fund racists

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eh, I get it, but you can't win every battle.

I have a 16 and a 13. I bought them both before that thread.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I am not expecting my single cancellation to make the slightest difference to their policy, they already made it clear that they are quite happy funding racists when multiple people have challenged them over it, and with one of their larger pots of cash they give out as well.

What I am getting out of is knowing I am not (indirectly) funding racists myself, rather than knowingly funding racists. I do not see it any different from buying products from Musk, if you did it ages ago then fine, but after, thats something else entirely.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (20 children)

I get it, but also if I stopped buying everything from every racist / racist supporter, I would have no real options for laptops generally speaking.

Michael Dell is a complete and total Trump supporter. Should I buy an XPS?

Tim Cook designed and delivered a custom award to Trump. Knowing this, should I buy an Apple?

I understand wanting to vote with your dollars but in practice there are few or no ethical options for many things that you can buy.

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[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

These fuckers have no USB-A ports but has a headphone jack?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buy a Framework, I have 4 slots that can be everything from USB-A to C to RJ45 to card readers when I need it, and I can charge the thing from any port.

[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 1 points 3 days ago

I'm waiting patiently for Framework to release a 14" to 15" touchscreen 2 in 1 with stylus support. I'm glad they dipped their toes in the water with the 12, but the offerings just aren't yet there to tick enough boxes for me.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

The correct way, really

[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I miss my clitmouse XD

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Seems like the new naming scheme didn't work out after all, eh?

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Good Lord, they're copying that hideous notch design from the macbooks.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (6 children)

On one hand, its not that bad on a Mac... but that's because the OS is designed in such a way where there's nothing there and it sorta gets lost. Windows isn't like that at all.

On the other hand, At least its not right above the keyboard like some of the ones we have at work... the "up the nose" cam is not flattering.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just give me a bezel, I want a machine not a fashion accessory.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I hate the notch, and I used to say I'd rather have a bezel, but after going back to one of my pre-notch laptops, not having a bezel is nice. I still hate the notch though. I wish I could opt for just not having a built in webcam. It's not like they use it for faceid, and I use an external webcam for work meetings anyway. Plus the iPhone seamlessly works as a webcam.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

what the fuck is a 1 HZ display option

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

It says in the article: Energy saving and for static images 

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

1 Hz display option

Btw, is there something like Adaptive Sync for display servers? Although most devices' drivers only allow for 30 or 20 Hz minimum, automatic change from energy saving (reading static text) to high refresh (scrolling text, playing video) would be neat.

And while we're on it: recalculating all 4 million pixels just because you moved the cursor is kinda a clutch, no? Not to mention 30+ times in the second just because.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Back when I owned an XPS, one of the driver options was 'compressed screen updates', which only updated the part that had changed. As far as I could tell, made no difference to battery life whatsoever - turning down the screen brightness even a notch did much more.

Daily driver laptop for nearly ten years, and the part that finally failed was the CPU fan, which wasn't easy to obtain replacement parts for, so treated myself to a new laptop entirely. Mind you, the power connection was a PoS, would have been as well keeping that on an annual reorder for how often it failed. Pretty good laptop otherwise.

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I was confused when I read that part of the title, I thought they accidentally typed it instead of 120. A 1hz display for all functions would be a hilarious thing to play with for a minute or two.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No clit-mouse, no deal.

(There are dozens of us. Dozens!)

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago

Not the capacitive touch bar!

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I probably got a lemon but regardless my XPS (~3 years old) is the worst computer I've ever owned. Touchy WiFi, battery that goes from 30 to 3℅ in a matter of seconds, randomly doesn't detect the keyboard, randomly freezes, randomly doesn't acknowledge it's plugged in. Some days I just put it in timeout and use my 10yo netbook instead.

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