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I'm curious to know how Onlyfans has managed to thrive in the era of online free content and piracy.

I mean, why would anyone want to pay for pron when it is readily accessible or available?

And how has Onlyfans content somehow managed to escape being pirated (or has it being ripped and shared online too)? If it is being shared or is readily available, do most people not know they can also source this content free?

I suppose I'm just curious to understand the pron ecosystem and how onlyfans content has somehow circumvented the perceived pitfalls of piracy.

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[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 205 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OF sells parasocial relationships

[–] quams69@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Exactly, people aren't paying for pics, they're paying to interact with the models

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Which is honestly really fuckin sad when you think about it.

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[–] DunkinCoder@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

A few articles I’ve seen in my feed show how more successful ones hire essentially VAs to respond to messages and chat for $18+ hour. It’s really quite amazing.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 119 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Some OnlyFans users think if they pay one of the content creators enough they will notice them.

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 9 months ago

True dat folk.

[–] seaturtle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago

Ahh, the actually-pornographic version of begging senpai to notice oneself.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 83 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

And how has Onlyfans content somehow managed to escape being pirated

It hasn’t. Just check torrentgalaxy.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Well I need to investigate this for, uh, important research purposes...

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[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don't even need to torrent it, there's a couple of webpages that just have community uploaded only fans content. Like you can just lookup the person you're interested in and most of their content is there for free

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Literally in a Telegram group that uploads the entire content of 5 not yet uploaded creators every week. At least that's what they adviertise andnhave so far delivered. "WHAT THA FUCK" "Holy shit, yo what's the matter? Whats happened? What's going on?” " THERE'S SO MUCH PORN"

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] EsteemedRectangle@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 8 months ago

Ah, the good old Soviet Union

[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Not a connoisseur, so take what I say with a grain of salt but... Isn't the appeal of it, the significant personal interaction? You can't get that by ripping a couple vods. The ability to live chat (and throw paid messages their way), and have them respond, seems irreplaceable.

[–] pruneaue@infosec.pub 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not much of a porn person either. But OnlyFans vs normal porn feels like shopping at your local store vs a big box chain

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

big box

I see what you did there.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 6 points 9 months ago

I think this is entirely the reason..

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago

And ultimately to be replaced by chatbots without them knowing.

[–] FartsUnited@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's interesting. So the main attraction (so to speak) is the illusion of intimacy or personalisation. The actual pron just enables or caters to the illusion ?

If Onlyfans is pirated, though, it seems to miss the main appeal of it. Nonetheless, are there dedicated trackers or search engines for the content, and does the content also give an indication of the 'personal' interactions?

[–] CoffeePorter@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Not much difference between strippers and onlyfans models, just a computer. Both are just doing what it takes to get more money out of the simp.

[–] wind3s@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Listen, OnlyFans isn't porn. It's something entirely different.

Let me explain. You remember when you first saw a porn vid and immediately envisioned yourself fucking the woman in place of the guy?

Well now, there is no guy. It's just her. And she's only interested in you, and she's not just being naughty with you and surprising you with nudes (sometimes free ones - sometimes very naughty free ones), but she's also asking how your day was and telling you good morning and good night every day to the point that you almost believe her when she says your dick is so huge and she wants it inside her...

You starting to get the picture? Porn is free because it's porn. That's not porn, that's an experience.

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[–] Sterben@lemmy.ml 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

OnlyFan contents are pirated and shared on a daily basis as any other media. But because there are not many requests for it (also since consuming directly on OnlyFan hits differently, as you talk with the actual girl), and in part because of NSFW nature, you will find them only if you actually search for them.

Sure thing, you will never encounter this kind of content on common NSFW websites 😁

[–] d1tt0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

i'd be surprised if you're actually talking to the actual person making the content and not an assistant they pay to manage DMs & "fan" interactions.

Src: a friend is an OF creator who has shared that a lot of the creators usually pay for some sort of account management service after a certain level of notoriety.

[–] Sterben@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

I agree 100%, most messages are just bots, and now with the surge of AI it will be much harder to distinguish a real person from a computer.

[–] kawa@reddeet.com 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's frequent dumps of OF pages on 4chan, OF oiracy is very well alive.

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[–] CylustheVirus@beehaw.org 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Parasocial relationships and extremely niche content. Many girls will do specific roleplays. You want a girl to fart on a cake while calling you James Baxter? Someone will. Hell, someone probably specializes in it.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago

Personalized and specialized content seems to factor into it.

Often it works out where someone pays a large sum for a specific piece of content. Afterward a gallery or video is posted for subscribers or individual purchase for much smaller sum, which gets pirated, but the real money is already kinda made.

This is based on a friend of mine relating how their sister makes a living off OnlyFans.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 21 points 9 months ago

OnlyFans is hugely pirated. But they will do well for two reasons. The first is that their service is good and easy. The second is that customers know that their money is motivation. Without their subscriptions, the models won't make content.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Most people are much more willing to pirate from a global megacorp than from an actual human person.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

This. OnlyFans is the "farm to table" of the porn industry and people feel differently about stealing from a small family farm than they do from Walmart.

Also, beyond just the guilt aspect, that same "farm to table" principle also means that a lot of people see OnlyFans as a fair and reasonable exchange with minimal unnecessary exploitation. Paying a major porn company feels scummy and gross and may make you feel complicit with the various evils of the industry; subbing to an OnlyFans can feel more like a donation to a creator who makes content you enjoy.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

I regret to make you aware of a comment above in this very thread from someone trying to do exactly that.

[–] xep@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The piracy bugbear has been raised as the reason why corporations aren't selling enough since mp3 was invented back in the day. It isn't always the case. OnlyFans is pirated but the piracy doesn't affect their bottom line enough to drive them out of business. If you think about it, lots of pornography on the internet is free, and they're still okay. It's a much more nuanced discussion than "piracy is stealing" than the corporations want you to think it is.

Edit: if I had to guess, the niche they serve or the value they add on top of "just porn" is something their customers are willing to pay for.

Ah that actually makes a lot of sense.

You don't pay for the porn, you pay for the interaction, seeing a different side of a public person or for the feeling of knowing a secret.

Btw just to make sure, I am not being ironic here I actually never thought of it that way.

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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago

I have no idea about how that industry works, but I guess piracy is not really driving stuff out of business elsewhere either.

Most people don't pirate. If piracy could drive companies out of business, gaming would be dead, especially indie gaming.

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is a lot of unique creators on OF and unless you have thousands of subscribers you probably aren't going to be able to find pirated content easily. Also you can get custom content and talk directly to the creator . And from knowing people personally it's alot more work than you think to make money on OF .

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

*talk directly to their content manager

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Most smaller creators don't have a content manager .

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You sure about that?! 😂 And that is just a simple search

Here is a different site.

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