Based. Censorship no bueno
this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2026
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Corps are getting bigger than countries and starting to flex. Scary shit.
Jennifer Government and Snow Crash here we come. Except we don’t get any of the cool shit fictional cyber-dystopias do.
Don't praise Cloudflare or Italy; both are part of the problem.
I mention it to my friends and family every chance I get. I try to explain that the digital walls they're building aren't going to keep us safe but I'm always met with tired indifference.
about as safe as when in prison
Yeah the worst fucking part is that theyre indifferent. They dont promote these measures, they just dont care. If they did, a discussion could be had at least.
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Blocking cloudflare is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. Unless they start blocking IPs like the great firewall of china blocking any DNS is kinda pointless. Unless maybe if the domain’s primary name servers are cloudflare but I can’t seeing any site doing nefarious things using cloudflare. Run your own DNS resolver on a VPS somewhere besides Italy.
My worry is the internet starts getting terribly segmented and not interconnected. That would be more of an issue.
Are they becoming less shitty or is this accidentally doing the right thing?
They did as sort of positive thing while praising Elon and Vance, despite both their visions of “free speech” as being “free speech for what I like and not you”
So a hearty fuck Cloudflare, fuck American tech for one again operating in a country and refusing to follow their laws, and fuck the entire billionaire apparatus who are so deep in the circle jerk they don’t know how to come up for air and not act like fascists for 10 seconds.
the Italian law is overly broad here, but that doesn’t excuse this behaviour.
fuck American tech for one again operating in a country and refusing to follow their laws
Fuck government overreach. And fuck anyone defending it.
You fight government overreach by civil disobedience, not by corporatist overreach in the same manner.
If you give a free pass to corporations disobeying laws just because you personally dislike those laws, soon you'll find all regulations are pointless because no corporation follows them...
Also, there's no such thing as "governmental overreach" in a well working system that is FOR the people and BY the people. You elect the representatives, you have a say in what laws get passed. I do agree that we could do with a refresher because the current forms of representative democracy are breaking thanks to (primarily right wing) political false marketing with no repercussions, and nowadays we do have a way to have people give direct input on laws and regulations before they get passed, but that doesn't negate the fact that the government isn't supposed to be some shady ruler class but rather a form of communal governance.
There’s no way this was Cloudflare taking a stand for liberty and free speech. They are simply choosing to obey one less regulation. Less for them to do. Less to be accountable for. Less to special-case for one country.
These corporations hate being regulated - it could be by a direct popular ballot, not politicians, and they would still resist. Let’s not mistake corporate obstructionism for libertarianism.
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Nah, fuck Italy on this one. Capitalists demanding censorship to protect their profits are never right.
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They’re arguing that applying filters would degrade performance for everyone. So.. to me that kinda sounds like accidentally doing the right thing.
Seems fairly plausible that they cant change 1.1.1.1 behaviour per country.
At least, not readonably. Dns is the one place where people spend a lot of effort saving microseconds (and less) on each look up.
Cf has always been taking the "freedom of speech absolutist" approach.
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Any DNS beginning filtering anything gets removed from my Adguard Home. I will do my filtering myself. Ads and nazi websites like *.il, or whitehouse.gov for example do not load in my network.
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As a European, I've really come around to a more American view of Free Speech.
Over the last few years, we get more and more laws requiring more and more surveillance and censorship to protect copyright, stop hate speech, enforce GDPR, ... We're building up this infrastructure and the population thinks it's fine. The courts go along and ask for more.
What is going to happen when a European Trump comes to power? You think it's terrible that Big Tech goes along with Trump? That Must bought Twitter? We ain't seen nothing yet.
just to be clear, it seems like you are referring to the claimed american view of free speech, not the reality
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The US has no limits which is fucking stupid, meanwhile Canada has limits on hate speech while still being far more free than the US speech wise.
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Wait what do you have against GDPR?
Similar to copyright, enforcement requires surveillance and empowers censorship. But worse than copyright, it is directly aimed at information about people. So that is what gets surveilled and censored.
Of course, there are positive uses, such as disappearing revenge porn. But in practice, it will always favor the rich and powerful who have the resources to actively manage their image. I don't believe it is worth the massive surveillance and censorship apparatus, even before one gets to the obvious potential for misuse.
Have you heard of the recent Russmedia case?
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