Not a native English speaker, but my hunch is, soccer will almost certainly be understood. Also it will identify you as American.
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And Canada π
And Australia, at least when they're not trying to suck up to the British.
And English... I've heard them use soccer as well on many occasions
Yeah, soccer is actually an English term that they created to refer to association football, as opposed to rugby football or the hundreds of other forms of football.
If an Englishman uses 'soccer' he's almost certainly from the upper class.
As βsoccerβ was played by the elite (such as the Oxford lad who is said to have coined βsoccerβ), it soon spread to the working classes, and became βfootballβ.
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If you really want to throw them off, call it the proper name rather than the nick name. Association football. Most adult non-american english speakers are at least tangentially aware that the name soccer derived from that. But it certainly won't make you sound American.
Thank you!
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No, we understand. In fact, if anything it's easier if you say soccer! If someone with an American accent says 'football' I normally assume they mean gridiron, so sayings soccer is actually a little clearer.
Of course, in different parts of the world, 'football' might mean rugby (either union or league), Gaelic football or Aussie rules football. So, the potential for confusion is pretty wide!
This. 'Soccer' is well understood and unambiguous, though it might prompt certain assumptions depending on your audience. There are times and places you might prefer to say 'football' to mean 'Association football,' but if you just need to communicate simple factual information in two syllables, it's probably the best word for that.
There are times and places you might prefer to say βfootballβ
Even countries or continents.
Interesting, thank you!
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In Australia we have Soccer, Aussie rules football (AFL), Rugby Union (Union) and Rugby league (Usually referred to as "League" or "NRL") all of them also known as "Football"
I have a pretty deep burning hatred for people who insist on correcting people when they say Soccer. It honestly just makes you look like a twat "yOu mEaN wHaT tHe rEsT oF thE WoRld CalLs foOTbALl!?!" Like you fucking understood well enough to know this was your moment to open your cockholster and needlessly add that little tidbit like anyone else was confused.
Heh "cockholster". I'm going to work that into as many Christmas conversations as I can.
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It's ok, we know you guys are weird.
The word Soccer is actually British - it's short for Association as in Association Football, although it's slang from Oxford University of all places, and is late Victorian.
Irony is a surprising number of "Americanisms" turn out to be old British terms that died out in Britain but reached and continued in the US.
Most won't be confused at all. They might be surprised but pretty simple logic would result in a fast realisation of what you actually mean. I am surprised though, that you, as an English speaking person couldn't figure out that a torch might refer to a flash light.
Because we have actual torches too. You guys don't have actual soccers to get confused by. Given the right context we can figure out when you mean flashlight, but said torch.
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Haha it's true! When my Malaysian friend asked me for a torch, I was running around for five minutes looking for a lighter, like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aKrxd1q3Mw&t=8
It's all I could picture, no one ever asked me for a TORCH before. Like in Indiana Jones?? π
Until I stopped and asked, "Wait, what do you need it for?"
"To look at my car, something is wrong with the engine."
...and that's when I realized. We had a good laugh.
I'm an American who lived in England for a couple of years. Due to American media the majority of everyone understood what I meant when I said things like soccer, trunk or hood of a car, fries, etc. Words with different meanings between the two could get confusing like biscuit, chips, or pissed.
Since soccer doesn't have another meaning I never ran into someone who didn't know what I was talking about. However, when saying football in an American accent some thought I was referring to American Football by default.
I can only remember one instant where someone did not know what I was talking about. That was when I asked someone at work where the dumpster was and I got a blank stare. I explained, the big metal thing outside for trash and they were like, "oh the skip"
While it will absolutely out you as a US American, we will understand - same as when you say "Candy" and similar common Americanisms
Edit: Also, while mostly used to refer to flashlights as you guys call them, torch can also refer to other non-lantern light-emitting instruments
... wtf else do you call candy?
As others have said, sweets
Wait...I think you're saying that Brits call candy sweets...maybe...
Definitely Brits, but not just Brits - Sweets is the preferred term in much of the English speaking world, with Candy being very distinctly associated with the US.
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Wee Confectionary Yum Yums
Sweets?
I've actually heard people call candy "sweets" here in the midwestern US quite a lot
We use both
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I don't think all the people saying soccer in an Australian accent would appreciate being identified as an American.
True - I had forgotten you guys call it footy and soccer. Though I suspect the Aussie accent would give you guys away before we got to the topic of footy
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From now on Iβm calling it Foot Football. That other game is Hand Football.
Everyone understands, most gringe.
It is just football all over the world, in contrast to American "football".
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As a non-native English speaker I fully understand what it means and will happily correct it to football for you :P
It's soccer here in Australia too. Like the US, we have our own local football code too.
Australia and nz say soccer too
Iβve been kind of wondering that as well. A few months ago, I was in a call with a colleague in UK and we were chatting about our kidsβ playing the same sport . Then his kid wandered into the picture and asked what βsoccerβ was and we had to translate American English to UK English
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