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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Fucking hate how these shitheads take words from Tolkien's works and bastardise them. Palantir, Anduril.

What's next, a social credit system named "Silmaril"? An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called "Rivendell"?

Just fucking stop.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 days ago

Tolkein's idyllic structure for a society, the shire, is frequently analyzed through a lens of "is this anarchism?" and it's not all that uncommon to conclude "yes"

all these fuckers read Tolkien and adopted the imagery of the villains. none of them realize that the message is that all the top level people are addicted to power. the people who actually get shit done, the hobbits, they are tempted by power because it's tempting, but ultimately value singing songs, making tea, and eating potatoes too much to want to possess the ultimate power in the universe. almost everyone who comes into contact with the one ring wants to possess it forever. Bilbo's first desire for it is to use it to help him escape a dangerous situation. Frodo is indifferent to it at first. Sam immediately hates it, feels guilt for letting Frodo carry it alone, and commits himself to destroying it.

You're not supposed to read Tolkien and implement fascism. you're supposed to read Tolkien and learn to value pacifism

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean... Palantir showed Denethor false images of doom and despair fed by Sauron. It drove him to become a completely mad tyrant.

I think Palantir is a very apt name. They just don't realise why.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They just don’t realise why.

Yup. Just how Sauron was able to see via the Palantiri, the Swiss army have concluded that they can't rule out US intelligence accessing data through Palantir systems, despite reassurances.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

American "reassurance" is a "trust me bro" with no backing and no consequences for them if they break it.

[–] alberttcone@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that’s a Thiel thing. Tolkein was was one of his obsessions growing up. It doesn’t surprise me that he saw a plot device intended to be a warning as a really cool idea…

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

After listening to some of the Behind the Bastards on Thiel's Antichrist obsession, his names for things are more understandable. Not by being sensible, by his demonstrated tendency to read things and take interpretations from them that make no sense to anyone else.

So yeah I'm sure he's got some nutso bananas reinterpretation of what a Palantir is, etc.

He seems unwell, truly.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

Palantir should be trialed for crimes against humanity and literature

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Tolkien is rolling in his grave.

An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called “Rivendell”?

Surely "Mordor" would be a better choice?

[–] Lor@leminal.space 14 points 1 day ago

We cannot forget that DOGE has also stolen data from agencies. Most worrisome being the IRS who has records of all of your interest paying accounts and investments. One only need to use your imagination a little to what can happen. It is gonna be BAD.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So how do we poison the dataset?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

I suspect they're depending on data brokers who collect name and location from 3rd party apps. Set up fakes of a bunch of their metrics sending data, and you can fill it with junk

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Palantir is literally Evil Corp.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

Some more reporting by GamersNexus:
https://youtu.be/5Idb_D4Tdu8

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

SadTech reporting in.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

oh awesome, Palantir, the same company profiting off the genocide in Gaza

CEO Alex Karp has been a vocal supporter of Israel. In November 2023, he stated, "I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can."

After October 2023, Palantir has provided Israel with multiple AI-powered data analytics tools for military and intelligence purposes.

In January 2024, Palantir held its board meeting in Israel and entered into a “strategic partnership” with Israel’s Ministry of Defense to help Israel's “war effort.”

In October 2024, Norway's largest asset manager, Storebrand, divested its Palantir shares, worth $24 million, due to concerns that Palantir's work for Israel might implicate Storebrand in violations of international humanitarian law and human rights.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The Palantir tools were used to analyze the data trove that Microsoft was hosting for Israel. It contained all of the cellular data (metadata and call recording/MMS contents/data traffic) for the entirety of Palestine.

That tool's detection of 'terrorists' was used to justify a massive portion of the air strikes on Palestine. Their beta test resulted in a genocide.

Palantir is complicit in war crimes and genocide, never forget that.

Now the fascists are using the terrorist language to target their political opponents in the US and using the same tools of genocide.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, it's wild how clearly we can see that Palestine is the world's laboratory for surveillance and state violence tech and tactics.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The overwhelming majority of Somalis who live in the Minneapolis and St. Paul area are U.S. citizens, PBS reported.

And going after Somalis while Israel is trying to get a foothold in Somalia is sus af

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Every palantir executive and voting shareholder needs to be prosecuted and have their assets siezed to pay for the damage they’ve done to American democracy and the Palestinian people and infrastructure

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] Luxyr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is it possible that people could use flock or palantir stuff to track and collect info on ice agents? Their security is shit, yeah?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Flock's security is shit.

Flock most certainly, I have no information on the palantir app.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

ICE regularly uses fake license plates. You can do a bit, in that they dont swap constantly, but its not going to be as good as the tracking of private citizens

[–] Dubiousx99@lemmy.world 122 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems like Doge might have been setup to facilitate this. They are cross referencing data from the HHS database. Big Brother.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 93 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The actual point of DOGE was to just backdoor and/or datadump as many government databases as possible and give them to Palantir. That’s it. That was the entire point. Everything else was simply theatrics.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also firing all the agencies and agents investigating him.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 21 points 2 days ago

Don't forget completely fucking government contractors.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The OMB was really behind the firings, and Russell Vought is still there and still in charge.

And he’s a Christo-fascist from childhood.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/articles/who-is-russel-vought

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And to just stoke Elon's ego in letting him have his own fake agency and show people that they can fuck with the economy and suffer jo consequences whatsoever.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Nazis used IBM, the GOP use Palantir.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Let's give credit where credit is due - This is what the GOP wants. They have complete ownership of ICE's terrorist activities and applaud what is being done.

Republicans could reign this in in a couple of days if ICE didn't have their blessing. The same is true if our corporate/billionaire media began referring to what's happening as GOP, rather than ICE activity.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile my dad: ‘you should really invest in this company Palantir’…

[–] NChiwana76@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My brother is a total Palintir supporter because he sees his stocks rising. I tell him he’s supporting evil but he says their CEO is a Democrat and has nothing to do with Thiel🙄. Like most Americans he’s ok with evil if it pays well.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The CEO is insane. He apparently self-describes himself as a socialist but is the highest paid CEO on earth and fantasises about dumping cyanide-laced urine on people protesting state-backed brutality

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Bro misspelled National Socialist

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Fentanyl.

Fentanyl laced urine.

That's what he said.

Its basically a modern update on how the CIA would just dose their coworkers with LSD, but much more overtly weaponized.

... I am fairly sure that that would count as a war crime, if done on a battlefield.

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[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

90 years ago: buy Hugo Boss and Mercedes

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So who can be held responsible for when the app fucks up ?

I wonder if KARP will still be for pubic executions when they surround him with dark eyes and bright torches. I wonder if KARP recognizes that whomever killed that health care CEO ... that was a public execution.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Article starts with "Palantir..." 'nuf sa(i)d.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would shit like incogni or delete me help in countering this somewhat?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No idea what level of defense is actually necessary; not having a phone, or any bills or official correspondence sent in your name to your home will suffice, but I don't know what it takes which is less than that

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

HOW is a Private Company like PALANTIR able to Get such SENSITIVE information Though?

-People who Get Upset at Privacy because they have Nothing To Hide TM!

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If we don't build these apps then someone far worse probably will. Therefore it's better if we make the apps that allow untrained monkeys to find and execute people on US soil because at least we'll do it right... ya know?

Palantir 2026... probably.

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