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So, lets say we get to August or some summer month, and 4,000,000 people are protesting right out front the white house.

Do they send in the tanks? Do they kill 1,000,000 people? Would republican civilians see empathy for the dead americans who were democrats? Or would it unite the nation like 9/11 did, except this time against the government?

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Would the United States, under normal circumstances, in the era of cellphones and cameras?

No.

Would Trump?

I don't think theres a single thing that Trump wouldnt do, he is such a infantile, reactionary, egomaniacable manbaby that I can see him doing literally anything, if it makes him feel powerful or if he thinks it'd give him some kind of edge/opportunity.

[–] stupor_fly@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Without a doubt

heck we are the blueprint for a lot stuff like this in fact the Nazis studied us for protips on how to do Industrialized racism

The government has been fascist for a while and has killed its own people demonstrating several times. Too me some time to understand this myself but when I did, I've been talking about it for 20 years to people who'll listen. Needless, not many cared.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago

The false flag, the event, the whatever you want to call it is on the way.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Imagine a scenario where an American government deployed armed soldiers into the center of a city to suppress a civilian revolt against the government.

A thing that has never happened before.

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Oh my sweet summer child, the United States has had several tiananmen Square style incidents. 

Look up the bonus army, Kent state, battle of Blair mountain...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Ffs, the response to the LA Riots in '91 happened two years after Tienamen.

Nevermind the police response to Occupy Wall Street and BLM.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just to add: Ruby Ridge...

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Ruby Ridge was a shootout between a family of paranoid religious whackjobs and the feds after they cocked up handing a guy a warrant, which eventually got taken by what today would be called "Magats" as a rallying cry.

  • Bonus army saw 17,000 vets, 26,000 supporters against the US Army and their tanks.
  • Kent State was a load of unarmed college kids against The Ohio National Guard.
  • Blair Mountain was 10,000 coal minters against The Police, Army, and a Pinkerton Company.

They call make Ruby Ridge look like a bar squabble.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, no. The religious nutter part is utterly irrelevant.

What IS relevant is that the ATF entrapped the dude; they wanted him as an informant, so they spent a long time cajoling and threatening him into cutting a shotgun down for them ("short barrel shotgun", a National Firearms Act of '34 violation), and when he did, they immediately fucked his life. He ended up getting arresting him, he bonded out, and then got multiple differing dates for a court hearing. He didn't trust the courts because he thought the gov't was out to get him (spoiler: they were), and so skipped court. The judge issued a warrant improperly, and then the US Marshalls showed up, and everything went downhill.

It was a very, very clear case of entrapment, and what the gov't did was inexcusable. It doesn't matter that they wanted him to spy on the Aryan Nations, what they did to try and bend him to their will was evil.

Don't minimize that shit.

The gov't can, and will, crush every single person that they can get away with crushing.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

It's crazy that you believe that government propaganda from then, but rightfully distrust the government now.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

They don't bother with such things, America uses other means to squash such protests long before organization.

The means of organizing (the internet) is also the surveillance state. "grass roots" organizing has been dead for a very long time.

See the Patriot Act and history of CIA for further details. Recommend "Legacy of Ashes" by former CIA spook regarding history since 1950s or so. The people in charge then have been replaced by far worse, worse every term.

We only know a tiny bit, and what we do know is truly staggering and frankly when I've repeated actual facts online I've been told I'm a conspiracy theorist and booted, so I'll skip that part. The truth sounds ridiculous.

This is all publicly available information, they don't even bother hiding it any longer.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Buddy, we've already bombed our own citizens multiple times. Battle of Blair Mountain for starts.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

This is the endgame Moscow wants: Balkanization and destabilization.

America failed itself, and Putin loves to add more gasoline to the fire. Either that country must save itself, or the rest of the world experience the unimaginable once the collapse is completed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

All the things that were said the USSR would do, we did unironically.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You guys are gonna blame leftists and/or Putin all the way to prison, aren't you? What's happening now is purely American, baby, and non-whites have been subjected to it for hundreds of years.

Sarcasm aside, you really don't need to look much further than American literacy rates and money in politics to see how we got here. Bonus points if you look into FPTP and gerrymandering. Of course it's much easier to be intellectually lazy and just say "this is all Putin's fault. Just wait till the miderms".

edit: geopolitics- yea, the US did this to itself (but a few people made a lot of money!!).

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We're rounding people up into interment camps. We're way past tank man.

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[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is the issue tanks ? Because the National Guard has killed people during Vietnam.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Right?

So many people are ignorant of history. I had someone in another thread screaming at me how this is all because of 2001. As if this stuff didn't happen before then.

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