Can't the Israel lobby handle this?
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The zionists of the 1930s and 40s aligned themselves with the Nazis against the British. If somehow Israel came to be 20 years earlier they would have been an axis powers.
That's so freaking terrifying to think about.
But we're seeing it here too: People seeing their neighbors dragged away, and they will do any mental gymnastics necessary to separate themselves from the victims instead of defending or even standing with them.
I mean, we practiced a lot of fascist stuff for decades, usually with a liberal smile. Now it is mask off.
Examples please.
Decades of "liberalism" gave us the Taft-Hartley Act to crush labor movements, McCarthyism to criminalize dissent, and the systematic use of redlining to enforce economic exclusion. We've seen the carceral state explode and domestic policing militarize under the guise of "public safety," proving that the state’s velvet glove always hides an iron fist ready to strike whenever the working class actually organizes.
It's true. Much of the evil shit Trump does was done under liberalism where it was fairly popular. Christian Nationalists, Americans imperialists, bigots, and bloodthirsty capitalists were able to accomplish their goals within the system. They could get enough of what they wanted at the ballot box because their views had enough popularity to sustain it.
However, as neoliberalism eroded the middle class, as civil rights for minorities became more popular, as there was less support for war and supporting authoritarian allies, as people turned away from churches, the right knew there would come a day when they could no longer win through playing the liberal democratic game. They knew that if they waited long enough, left wing populism would usher in either a progressive era of labor reforms, or even more radical changes that would fundamentally threaten their power.
Under Trump, their goals are either to make their ideas popular, or take away any of the levers of control that regular people could use to stop them. The bigots and the Christians can use the billionaire media and newfound kingdom to enforce their dogma from the top down. Deport enough migrants, create enough anti trans laws, and suppress enough open discussions of sex through payment processors that much of it will become normalized. The billionaires can use those helpful idiots to take away the ballot box as an option and make the hollowed out husk of the government so broken and impotent that any liberal efforts to restrain them will be fruitless. Even the imperialists win because America's lost ground to China will galvanize future liberals into being more anti communist and cruel in promoting national self interest.
Liberalism may have died, but it's fully responsible for its own demise. It always had a fascist contingent that used the republicanism liberal ideology afforded to accomplish their own goals.
If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say they are signaling to the Nazis that if the 2028 election doesn't go their way the administration has their back at insurrection part two electric boogaloo.
how did America become the NAZI home front? all the other countries needs to put a massive embargo on the USA untill this administration is out of power.
Once the Conservative Propaganda Machine successfully demonized the Left as literally the worst thing in human history, EVERYTHING else became better. So Nazis, KKK, MAGA, dictatorships, etc. are all preferred to the horrors of The Left.
No! Not the right to healthcare!! Anything but that!!!
"Oh, you mean ¿death panels‽ Where a bunch of faceless, soulless bureaucrats decide whether you're worth saving or not? You know, completely unlike the wonders of profiteer healthcare!"
Well, it all started with the greatest and most successful genocide of human history, during which time we became the monolith of chattel slavery. This is literally what inspired the holocaust. So we started being the nazi home front somewhere around 100+ or so years before the nazis ever existed.
where do you think Nazis got their inspiration?
Plus we've always been a little Nazi-curious
Madison Square Garden, 1939

Europe is working on it. Notice how they're starting to adopt open source software and are working on their own credit card processor?
Right now, their governments and economies are too reliant on US-based tech companies that can be ordered to cut them off. So they're working on eliminating that reliance ahead of sanctions.
It just took a handful of connected conspiracists with no principles and some forward thinking about how to sow the worst seeds.
Names like Bannon, Epstein and others who funded them worked in the dark and with great amounts of support from a variety of institutions, worked to simultaneously make fascism cool and make average Americans too distracted to care. Eroded attention spans, people fighting online until nobody knows how to relate to each other anymore, dissolving communities and amplifying the most ridiculous or rage-baiting takes on both sides of ever issue.
That's all it took for people to stop caring as cartoonishly iconic fascists and nazis took power in the US, and the whole time we were thinking that cartoonishly stereotypical "bad guys" belong only in hollywood and can't possibly be real.
We all said that to some degree as the cartoonishly iconic and stereotypical villains rose in power and people were too burnt-out or distracted to give it any deeper thought.
worked to simultaneously make fascism cool
Y'know I cringe so hard now at that whole humorous "Muricah" stereotype. You know, gun-nut, God and Country, Reagan was so great, filthy commies blah blah blah. Always with a wry chuckle....it used to be a funny ironic schtick...Colbert parodied it really well.
...Except it's hitting hard and fast that it wasn't a schtick and no small percentage of people adopted it in all seriousness.
(Like how many people didn't understand the Space Marine fascism in 40k was supposed to be over the top parody.)
short version or long version? because bringing over a bunch of nazi scientists and engineers into our security apparatus in 1945 so they didn't join the USSR certainly didn't help.
The nazis had plenty support from USA until they started invading people. Even then the US didn't really give all that much of a fuck, and was mainly mad their profits were suffering. Only when Japan attacked USA and they were forced into the war, did they start having issues with it all. Mainly because telling your soldiers: "We're ideologically very close, but they're still the bad guys!" doesn't really work as a great motivational speech.
I wonder what would have happened if Japan had never attacked Pearl Harbor.
We probably never would have entered the war, and the Nazis would have conquered all of Europe, and started an endless war with the Soviet Union.
the attack of japan on pearl harbor was a response to an oil embargo. the US had already entered the war economically.
I've been pointing out the nazi parallels for years. People said I was hyperbolizing.
You and me both buddy. It sucks seeing all this shit so plainly unfold, only to have what I thought was normal people not just ignore it, but get angry with me for trying to point it out.
Ran across this lately. I guess you can start calling me Cassandra:
https://newrepublic.com/article/204254/survey-2024-election-cassandras-trump-2025
They don't want to break out of their little bubble of toxic positivity where everything is fine and you just need to put your nose to the grind and work hard to get ahead and everything will be alright.
They think you're an asshole for telling them EVERYTHING'S NOT ALRIGHT, and things aren't going to be alright just because you ignore all the heinous stuff going on.
But they're like "nah, don't spoil my vibe."
This is the hardest part. I am trying to let go of my anger as they slowly start to notice and pretend like either no one could have seen this coming, or they were against it all along.
If one single person in my sphere ever just came to me and said “I guess you were right” that would do so much for my mental health. But I need to get past that, and just be happy they finally are coming around.
I am exceptionally bitter seeing some of my formerly maga associates, getting heaps of praise for waking up while the same assholes praising them, were the ones telling me I’m the crazy one. Clearly still have anger to let go of…
We aren't copying the Nazis. The Nazis were copying us.
No such thing as an original idea, we're iterative. Humans are monkey see, monkey do, even with bigotry.
Can’t believe the Nazis won’t stop doing Nazi stuff. That’s so unlike them.
Nazi government will not stop sharing Nazi propaganda. More on the 11 o'clock news
the rest of the world needs to take note. The US and Israel are fascists states. Learn from history. Fascist will not stop until they are made to stop. I do not know how to stop it from the inside because my fellow countrymen do not seem to see the urgency of what is going on even though it was laid out in Project 2025.
In a tiny bit of fairness. The US gov has always done a lot of things just like the nazi's. It's oh soo much worse right now, and they are not trying very hard (or at all) to hide it like the past. But some people are just now coming around to see how much the government manipulates the people rather than help them. So don't expect the next administration to "fix" these things.
"Nazis won't stop promoting their own nazi made propaganda; Nazis are loving it. "