Watched Cohh play it, it's a pass for me. The gameplay loop isn't my style. But it was fun watching someone go from 'this game is so good!' to just anger, lol. Some of the music is kind of catchy.
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most-played roguelike/roguelite
hit action roguelike The Binding of Isaac
highly acclaimed roguelite and roguelike games, such as Hades, Vampire Survivors, and Balatro
i'll accept that roguelite means fuck all except 'has meta progression' but none of the games mentioned in this article are roguelikes
Well its does not mean "fuck all". It means the games are run based and randomised.
Also Rogue had zero meta progression.
of course you're right that a core feature of roguelikes is that each new game starts from scratch. it's roguelite that is vague
Roguelike was the term generally used for all roguelites before they became so popular someone invented a separate word for it.
There is a functional difference, though. Roguelikes start you from Zero everytime. Roguelites give you meta progression that you can bring into your next run.
I know theres a difference. I didnt say roguelike is the correct term for roguelites, but it has been and is used synonymously by many if not most people. Just like people call every electronic music with a rhythmic bassline techno even if it is progressive funk house.
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Yeah I get that they created roguelite for games that are based on rng runs and has some sort of async progression and I think that has become a pretty practical genre to categorize a wide array of hands that share those traits.
But roguelike should be kept to games like nethack, pixel dungeon etc that share the basic concepts of rogue.
agree re roguelikes but roguelite seems far too broad to work as a genre? like if there was a 'combos' genre that included blazblue, bayonetta, and bejeweled
Combos are one specific element in a game, roguelite is the basic concept the game is built on. Also since when are genres very specific? Rocket League and Mario Tennis are both Sports games.
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And yet I tend to like most games that fall into the "rouge lite" category. It feels too broad and yet also seems to work to classify games.
I think it may just be a bit like "RPG" or "Action" that are actually very wide categories that now have a lot of subcategories to help better explain them.
I like most games that fall into the category
same. but considering that, it's still a bad name for a sub (sub sub) genre at best, not a top level one. your RPG and Action examples are quite right but it's easy to imagine games as being e.g. action > beat-em-up > roguelike or RPG > TBT> roguelike. it's the same level as isometric or coop imo
edit: you've helped me talk myself out of my own argument, now i want to spend all my money on combocore and get upset about the inevitable subsequent wave of combolikes
Let's be honest with ourselves combocore is really just another phrase for rhythm games, which let's you aggregate things like guitar hero (rythmncombos) and DMC (actioncombos), as it's all about hitting buttons at the right time interval. Surprisingly many darksouls also fall into the combocore/rythmn category - sekiro and Lies of P (with their parrying/dodging timing) which we'll now call soulcombos.
Now we just need to start promoting this through the steam tags.
now that's initiative. and steam tags could hardly be much worse anyway
semantics is the lowest form of discussion
Hot damn, that's actually wild considering his original game being so popular already, and also the first Hades AND Vampire Survivors existing.
Definitely gonna pick it up myself at some point soon.
Oh, after doing some research, it seems the person who wrote this article did not do theirs. I'm pretty sure Don't Starve Together, Megabonk, and Elden Ring Nightreign (if you want to count that) all still beat out Mewgenics (especially Nightreign if we count it, by like such a large gap.)
The article is bunk, but oddly enough the all time high by Steamdb suggests it's around tied with DST, Megabonk, Hades II, and a few others at 115k-ish.
Nightreign, as AAA go, 313k at peak, lol.
You can still tell the article is bunk for comparing it to Stray as a cat game. Oh yeah, sure, while we're at it let's compare to Hello Kitty Island players, eh? AI logic. Lol
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The previous record was actually Hades 2 which surprised me too.
Super worth picking up if you like grid based tactics type games. It has so much more depth than I was expecting, every run or two I’m getting some new twist or ability that makes it play quite differently to anything I’ve tried yet.
Plus the sound track is great.
The humor and style definitely gives me a 2000s internet flash game vibe. I don’t necessarily mean that as a jab, it’s just kinda the vibe. Doesn’t look like my cup of tea though.
I mean that is what Edmund McMillan started as, up until the remake of Binding of Isaac really
Well that makes a lot of sense then! Haha.
It's a decent enough game, but I don't really love it. The items are all so boring and the passives aren't much better. Wish there was actual run-changing items like in Isaac.
Edmund has said he specifically did this on purpose. There's no singular game winning item. The power comes from combinations. He added passives and items that seem boring at face value but get better when synergizing with something else.
With all that said I think the breeding is what will make runs broken. Good items will be an unnecessary cherry on top when your cats are overpowered from the start.
Yes the synergies are what makes it but im hoping i unlock recollection later because there are some synergies I know will be broken if I can just get all thr perks/abilities at the same time.
From what ive seen the crazy stuff is quite a ways into the game, too much of a time commitment for me
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The game itself is really fucking good, I'll give them that, but I stopped playing the moment I learned about the cast list and McMillen doubling down on it. Incredibly disappointed in this centrist bullshit to the say the least.
Interesting take. You bring up a good point, but the game has been in development for 10 years and it's a really small cameo. I'm assuming most did the voice work for free or a small flat rate. It's not like you're supporting them with royalties every time the cat meows.
If you asked Ben Stiller to remove the Donald Trump cameo from Zoolander he'd probably give a similar answer despite Donald Trump being a far worse person and Ben Stiller publicly being a Democrat. I don't think it's a "centrist bullshit" position to work with people with wildly different views.
For me, it's just such a small issue to focus on and ruin something else you find enjoyable. It's one thing if McMillen was a vocal supporter of Israel or vocal MAGA. Like, I haven't watched a Tom Cruise movie in almost 2 decades because of his role in Scientology, but I watch Zoolander like once a year.
I get that, but to me it's honestly less about the inclusions, especially given the dev timeline, but more about defending it so staunchly today with his whole "balancing out" shtick. It doesn't seem like anyone was actually paid for it, let alone under contract, so it would've been so easy to just go "yeah this is kind of fucked up after everything that's happened, let's cut these out before release" instead of doubling down on it and defending the inclusion of literal nazis and rapists.
I read his take more like: "the game is edgy, offensive, and gross anyway. If you are offended by someone we had do 3 minutes of meows who turned out to be a terrible person, you probably can't handle other content in the game." And "it'd be cool if we get a bunch of people that had a big influence on internet culture in the last 20 years do a cameo"
It felt more like an apolitical take than a centrist take. For me, that's fine. I understand your perspective also and generally I agree.
"yeah this is kind of fucked up after everything that's happened, let's cut these out before release"
I mostly agree. I think there's a couple reasons why it didn't happen though. First one is he just didn't know. He was probably more focused on other things than if some of the cameos in are from problematic people. The other reason is that if he did remove them he would anticipate a headline like "McMillen removes cameo from Conservative Internet personality in new game" and he wanted to game to stay apolitical.
I'm really enjoying the game. And think McMillen could have done better. But if I stopped playing/reading/watching/using every piece of media from someone I disagree with a little then I wouldn't be able to do anything ever.
Eh, I would prefer that they weren't in, but there's 100+ voice actors in it and their only contributions is literally meowing. It's such a microscopic part of a phenomenal game, I can look past it.
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That's surprising, I bought it but found I didn't really care for the humor and all that so I returned it. Maybe I'll pick it up again someday if I feel in the mood for what it was
I can't even figure out what "rougelike" is supposed to mean anymore.
It means “similar to red”
There are so many roguelikes and not enough rougelikes. 😔
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