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    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Let's Encrypt's free and automatic certificate management has been around since November 16th, 2015, by the way.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    Let's Encrypt has also started offering 7 day certs for people who are confident that they spent more than 5 minutes to setup their cert management lol.

    [–] slowcakes@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    And who owns the root certificate?

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    You don't own the root certificate even when you aren't using Let's Encrypt, unless you self sign or want to become a certificate authority. Am I missing something? Is there some controversy about Let's Encrypt I'm unaware of?

    [–] slowcakes@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    I just mean they own it, I know that you can't decrypt encrypted messages with root certificate, but you can abuse it in the case of being man in the middle. Of course I don't think that let's encrypt are doing that, but there other entities that would really enjoy having that toolset for hundred of millions of services that rely on let's encrypt.

    And if you look at the ones who sponsor Lets encrypt, I don't think that any of them would bat an eye (except for EFF) if for instance the pedophile chief decided that they need to change leadership. Or hey, we NSA also have access to the credentials to the root certificate.

    Something being free is not always the best option, when it comes to security. And it's not impossible that such a large entity can become compromised through pressure, especially when they live on support from private organizations, who have time and time again, shown that they are not trust worthy and would choose to do unethical thing, if that benefits them.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

    I'm a little confused why you view this as an issue because in the alternative, manually installing certificates instead of using Let's Encrypt's tool, you still wouldn't own the root certificate.

    [–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 242 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    Purple Arch has yet to fail me.

    [–] apftwb@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)
    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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    [–] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

    I'm stealing that. Thanks.

    [–] irate944@piefed.social 81 points 3 days ago

    I’m a simple man. I see endeavour OS, I like

    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I enjoyed my time with EOS but it had annoying bugs on my Thinkpad that I haven't had with CachyOS in a year+ of using it.

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    Yeah, I am the same. CachyOS has been working better for me.

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    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 179 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    It kind of makes it hard to trust this distro when they fuck up the most basic things so often and frequently.

    [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    Not just with their web hosting. I've had so many updates break random crap it's not even funny. Recently, a random update I did not approve suddenly had kwallet not working. A core piece of a DE they provide a bundled version for. I had to start kwalletd myself every time I wanted to use it.

    It didn't start that way on the fresh install. I didn't do anything myself except reboot. Then suddenly my scripts that nab from the keystore are failing and asking me for passwords and what a mess.

    That's just a more recent example. I remember having quite a few random issues on update in the past, though the only other one I explicitly remember is the DE suddenly failing to start. Like, at all. Luckily I had a recent timeshift backup saved elsewhere, restored, and ignored the update notifications for a long while...

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    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (21 children)

    Why don’t people just use Arch directly instead of using derivatives? Well… I can understand using something like CachyOS as it has a different kernel with optimisations but Manjaro feels very irrelevant. If you just want Arch Linux with simple installation, just use the archinstall script. Regardless of which derivative you use, Arch based distros are going to be heavy maintenance than something like Bazzite, Mint or Ubuntu.

    [–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I used Manjaro for a few years before switching to Arch. Manjaro finds a nice sweespot for "Arch but also nice". Furthermore, Arch has gotten much more user friendly in the last 5 years or so. Back in late 2010s, Manjaro was adding a lot of value on top of Arch.

    What really bothered me about Manjaro was the "forum cops" they employ, who are super aggressive to newcomers and unhelpful. It was not a nice experience to seek help. Say what you will about Arch people, they are at least helpful.

    I finally switched to Arch when I got my new machine. I recommend the same.

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    [–] someonesmall@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

    Back in 2015 for gaming PC: Steam and Nvidia driver updates via package manager, Xfce (used it before on multiple laptops), promise to be more stable than vanilla arch.

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    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 117 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Wow. How does this happen when letsencrypt exists? Or certbot?

    More importantly.. How does this happen again?

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

    There is a significant amount of infrastructure that does not support cert bot out there.

    That being said they are using LE but looks like the renew failed.

    https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=manjaro.org&s=116.203.91.91&latest=

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

    There is a significant amount of infrastructure that does not support cert bot out there.

    Example? I believe you, I just can't imagine what would preclude a public-facing server from using Caddy or certbot. Certainly not for a project maintaining an Arch-derivative distribution.

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    [–] Hupf@feddit.org 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Oh no, first lemmynsfw.com and now this

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    wait what happened to lemmynsfw

    [–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    As posted at this new instance which appears to be trying to fill the void (heh) left by lemmyNSFW:

    Xaeg/Yay was the owner of LemmyNSFW, and he had access to and paid for the domain, server, and everything else related to the site. He has been AWOL for about 6 months now, and suddenly this month, the server and the domain stopped being paid for. I have no access to the server to get the database.

    Because of this LemmyNSFW as it was, and all the content on it, much to my dismay, seems to have died.

    [–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    If they were in the US then they might be in 🧊 custody

    [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

    Damn. Fuck ice. In general, not for potentially being related to this.

    [–] lime@feddit.nu 12 points 2 days ago

    the only admin disappeared and the bills stopped getting paid, apparently

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    [–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
    [–] halendos@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago

    At this point is more of a tradition...

    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    It's still technically automaton if your workflow depends on people poking you when things break.

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    [–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    This is at least the third time, how do they even manage to fail that

    [–] angel@sopuli.xyz 55 points 2 days ago

    At least the sixth time even. Four cases are documented here and another one was just three months ago. This last link points to reddit, but there a manjaro maintainer also explains why it keeps happening:

    Politics within the project are the issue.

    The fix for these issues have been build for about a year already. But those who have access to stuff like DNS and hosting are currently incapable of making any agreement on any topic preventing trivial fixes such as this from being implemented.

    [–] Wulff@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Well shit... It looks like they were on a good run too.

    https://manjarno.pages.dev/

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    [–] spez@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago
    [–] m3t00@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

    unauthorized end-to-end encryption.

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    To be fair it's about to get even worse with the much smaller max validity periods.

    [–] Evotech@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Either that or they actually automate it

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    [–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Systemd will auto renew an LE cert.

    [–] Maddier1993@programming.dev 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    With how it's going, Will systemd also eventually be able to occasionally remind my Asian ass that I am a failure?

    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago

    I thought that's what your parents are for?

    [–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago

    Have a look at systemd timers 🀣🀣

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