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At least in the US. Hopefully other countries do better.

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[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

According to NHTSA numbers, New Years Day (and New Years Eve) are no longer in the top 10 most deadly holidays for drunk driving fatalities, or driving fatalities generally. Strong police presence and strict DUI enforcement has done a lot to cut down on the loss of life in this particular case.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Canada does not do better. We are really good at blaming the victim and allowing drunk drivers to be repeat offenders. Shit, where I moved away from there were people lobbying to increase the legal BH limit.

This is why driving should be by profession only and very regulated IMO.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Any other heavy machinery generally needs a license and regular recertification that requires you to basically take the test again. And anywhere you'd be operating generally has other people who have also undergone their own safety trsining. But giant 1-ton metal machines that go on public roads co-occupied by random pedestrians? Just come round every so often so we can give you a new ID.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, it's insane how we allow people- even literal children- to operate heavy machinery that kills thousands every year with only a basic understanding and minimal experience.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, but the most common area to train in is the very same roads everyone is using. There are no facilities where you can go and learn under controlled conditions and supervison, for most people you near the end of your teens and an adult gives you some keys after you past a written exam.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, depending on your location. In the North East U.S. you definitely can take a professional driving course. There is a program called "In Control: Crash prevention".

I first took that class as an EMT through my ambulance job. But, it is open to the public. I brought my 17 y/o son to the class shortly after he got his license.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes these services exist, but they are not required to get a lisence, and that is part of the problem, there is no centralized regulatory body controlling the training drivers recieve if any.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Fair point. That level of class that we took should be required.

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Speeding, drunk driving, lack of transit options, lack of enforcement.... All preventable factors

These deaths are not accidents

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

My ex's mom never stopped driving when she developed a medical condition that has her randomly passing out multiple times a day. She never stopped, the doctor never took it, and the inevitable happened.

She passed out, killed a pedestrian. Did like 2.5 years and ~6 Mo of that was time served IIRC.

Motorists aren't REALLY punished for crimes, and pedestrian murder is just victim blaming advertising for car ownership "if they hadn't been on their bike they would have survived" "that's what you get for walking on the side of the road"

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

War famine disease these are all preventable!

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[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

So many accidents in Romania could be avoided if freight trucks were on rail, but now freight rail is garbage and nobody says anything

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[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'll never forget one of the dumbest things I've heard. Person in charge of the "orientation meeting" for exchange students at UCSB said with a straight face to the group of about 30 foreigners:

It's important that you don't drink and driver, as you can get a big fine.

Are you sure that's the reason?

Living in Norway, It's been 15 years since I heard of someone I know, know someone who drunk drove. Likely a very different experience in other social circles, or other parts of the country (coughFinnmarkcough) , but I would say it's definitely a cultural difference.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Please elaborate on how nothing has been done?

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