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GrapheneOS devs have been very clear about Fairphone not caring the slightest about security. They are the last OEM in the world they'd choose.

Fairphone has a partnership with Murena to ship a variant of the Gen 6 with e/OS/, don't they?

And a user replaceable battery!

I’d rather have it be a bit more mid to upper range, I want a nice processor and decent cameras

Don’t forget when you could listen to fm radio using the headphone jack as an antenna.

I thought that was going to be the future, but it’s easier to sell music from your music store when you kill am/fm radio.

It runs fine on my Pixel 7a, I have an account with 2 Brazilian banks and they all work well.

Some apps just don't work though, but they are far and between, an example is Brazil's gov.br, which is a website that is used for ID confirmation on everything that pertains to the government (tax revenue, your own business details,etc.). But then an old phone does that job for me at home.

Speaking of Brazil, it is worth mentioning that Google Pixels are not officially sold here. The ones I did obtain I bought on a "Brazilian eBay" and there is no e-SIM support for it nor any warranty services. I had to do the battery replacement myself despite knowing that Google was offering to fix faulty Pixel 7a's on NA/India/Europe/etc. I am only bringing this up because, coincidentally, 50% of Motorola's smartphone sales are on LATAM. It's a pretty smart move they are making if you ask me, they are aware they could explore this huge market it seems.

Banking and finance is the one area where Graphene falls over for me in the UK, on a Pixel 9.

In short, my bank's app - Lloyds - doesn't work on Graphene. At all. I have Play Services sandboxed, and I've tried all the tricks, but nope. No dice. The website works in the browser just fine, but is kind of a pain in the arse to have to manually log in to whenever I want to use it.

And, as with all Graphene phones regardless of bank, Wallet does not allow registration of any payment cards. Neither my credit nor debit cards work. Store reward cards do though, so that's something.

Workarounds for me are currently:

• a Monzo card registered with my Garmin watch,
• my bank card saved in the Lidl app, which can be used for payments
• a magsafe wallet that holds my debit card

I'm led to believe that the Curve app can be used for contactless payments, however, I somehow failed the ID check when I tried to register with them, and their customer service is APPALLING. It's been five months, and I'm still no closer to actually getting hold of anyone who might be able to help. Also, Curve was recently bought by Lloyds, so it seems likely that that option will be closed in the foreseeable future.

Ultimately though, it's fine, and the benefits outweigh those few drawbacks.

Use your bank's web portal. If your bank doesn't let you use a web portal, switch fucking banks, because that means they don't care about you.

Bank apps are filled with all kinds of tracking spyware.

I haven't had any trouble with banking apps. One gives me a warning but allows me to continue. Google Wallet doesn't work for payments but that is just fine with me.

My bank's app won't run on my Pixel 8 Pro with GrapheneOS. Most apps run fine. It's pretty much just the bank app and eBay that refuse to run.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116148741815778719

We never ruled out working with Motorola, Samsung, Nothing, OnePlus, etc. We said none of their current devices meet our requirements which remains the case for all of them. Only future devices from our OEM partner can be supported and it's going to take time to meet all of the update and security feature requirements. It's planned for 2027 but we aren't sure when in 2027 the devices will be launched. There's a lot of work to get done on updates, MTE, etc. before then.

Motorola is a major supplier of communication equipment for the IDF and produces bomb fuses used in IDF's bombs. It also donated money to Project 2025.

I don't know, I expect them to call it the (We're clear on) OPSEC 1

I mean it seems like a no-brainer for OEMs. You can just turn over all your software development to a 3rd party, for free.