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[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 162 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why did Polygon include the CTWC video at the top of their page instead of BlueScuti's?

They are already stealing his views reposting his entire video with some bullshit commenting from them over the top of it and now Polygon is supporting that kind of behavior.

The kid did the work, give him the damn views.

[–] ttsci@lemmy.world 123 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Thanks for mentioning the original source! Here's BlueScuti's video, to save everyone else some searching. The moment he beats it is here, at 38:30.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 21 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the links. I went to watch and he's actually live right now playing some tetris. Dudes a machine.

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best comment in the thread. No muss, no fuss, just a link it the sauce and a timecode link to the actual event.

Thank you for your service.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It reminds me of if you look up a trailer on YouTube and the first results are usually a bunch of videos of people "reacting" to the trailer, with a stupid shocked face in the caption.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

Yeah, and if the OG video was just a minute or so long, I get including it while "reporting" on it.

This kid did a 45 minute run, which CTWC included in their video in its entirety, their own contribution, being the intro and interview, are only a few minutes tacked on at each end.

It's infuriating.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It just goes to show you how low quality their journalism is. Didnt even bother finding the original source, just pulled the first video that came up in youtube search

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

That's what makes it extra messed up.

In the text of the article, they actually link to the kids video.

Yet the include of the page, they use that CTWC video.

So this isn't lazy or by accident, this is completely deliberate.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In this case, "beat" is causing the game to crash, lol. You can also roll the levels over (in theory) from 255 back to 0. The game gets glitchy at level 138 though so a human rolling over back to 0 seems fairly unlikely.

This is a great article I was reading earlier about it: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/01/someone-has-finally-beaten-nes-tetris/

[–] 9cpluss@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

That was a very interesting watch, cheers!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, my wife got me an "official" Tetris handheld game for Christmas and not only does it only have 15 levels, but the music repeats once and then stops until you restart the game.

You know what I would love? A basic, no-frills Tetris game for my phone. I don't know why that is too much to ask for.

[–] HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know what phone you have but an nes emulator app and a Tetris ROM is totally a thing that's not too complex

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

iPhone, unfortunately. Stupid walled garden.

[–] michaelkovacs98@mastodon.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you can get the Delta emulator using the Alt Store on iOS

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I appreciate the advice and I'll definitely look into it, but I really shouldn't have to look into it or run an emulator. If the company that owns Teris (who now sue anyone trying to put out a similar game) just put out a simple version of Tetris with an ad banner at the bottom, they would make serious bank from all of us older people who grew up playing it constantly. They would probably even make a decent amount of money if they charged for it up front.

There is an official Tetris phone game. It's shit. There's no normal Tetris mode on it. I really don't understand.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You can also get cheap, ESP32 based gameboy pocket style emulator handhelds that are nice. They stopped making the original Odroid Go, but there are others out there.

[–] aiden@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

Check out falling lightblocks. I'm not sure if it's on iPhone but on Android you have to get it from their website because Google removed it from the playstore because they got copyright claimed

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blame the Tetris Guideline. In the mid 2000s, they changed the rotation system, and under the new system, any player of intermediate skill can just play forever. Once you know the tricks to keeping a piece in play and building the stack in a way that you can always get a piece where you want it, you can't lose until you voluntarily lose. That was, needless to say, a bit broken for leaderboard purposes. So as a bandaid solution to that, the main mode was changed from endless to 150 lines.

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds interesting, can you elaborate?

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The difficulty curve in Tetris has a few different possible knobs to adjust as the levels go up, generally involving how much of a delay you have on certain events. The most obvious is gravity, which is how many frames it takes to fall one space (or, to ramp that up further, how many spaces it falls per frame), but the relevant one here is lock delay. This is the amount of time between the piece landing and the player losing control over the piece. Low lock delay like you have on NES tends to make small mistakes a lot more punishing. High lock delay lets you reposition a piece shortly after it falls. Modern Tetris has a small but highly controversial change to the lock delay logic: rotating a piece resets the timer. This means you can spam the rotate button to think about where to place a piece indefinitely, a technique called infinite spin. Presumably this was done with timed and battle modes in mind, where this isn't really an advantage because it's always better to play quickly, but in endless it has no meaningful cost. So leaderboards started to get pretty grotesque, with top scoring games dragging on for dozens of hours. Something had to be done about it, and shifting focus entirely to timed and line limited modes was the choice they made for better or worse.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have an old Tetris Microcard that is brilliant. Mines an older version of something like this and I love it. Plus it fits in your wallet... https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Arcade-366-Tetris/dp/B07QC8DYTJ

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Neat! I think the screen would be too small for my old eyes though.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know how to play Tetris pretty well, but damn it if I couldn't follow just how fast you have to react at those last levels. By the time I see a piece on their screen and my brain says "box" they've placed 3 more pieces.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It's like chess. They have to think multiple moves ahead.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apparently this kids dad died a week earlier and he decided the video to him.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Unsure how true, but Sauce: https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/01/03/blue-scuti-tetris-killscreen-video-stillwater-oklahoma/72097047007/

A 13-year-old Oklahoma boy became the first person to technically beat Tetris on the original 1988 Nintendo Entertainment System cartridge version. He dedicated his win to his dad, who died last month.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It looks like the game just crashed. And he looks happy rather than annoyed.

Is that what beating Tetris is? I thought it would maybe run out of cubes after a while, or something.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Crashing the game was in fact the goal. It was discovered by using a bot that the game would eventually bug out and start trying to read tile data from the RAM, which gave a chance for the game to crash. No human player had been able to reach this game crash until now, which is why it's a big deal. It's the first time someone has technically beaten Tetris, as normally every single player will eventually top out and lose either due to mistakes or bad luck with the pieces.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That makes sense. Thanks for the extra info.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was posted yesterday with a different video that goes more into details what this is all about, the old records and how these were achieved and what the "true killscreen" (this crash) is, etc. I didn't think it would actually be that interesting, but I watched the whole thing and quite enjoyed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJ5UuknsHU

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is the Tetris on the original Gameboy not classic Tetris?

I completed that when I was a kid. I remember not having anyone to share they joy with, other than friends at school the day after!

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought the same. My mom beat it and claimed there was a rocket ship. I didn't believe her until she made me sit by her and did it again.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

And then all the rolling credits

[–] Eric_Pollock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Haha, he nearly passes out when he realizes he crashed the game. That kid is amazing.

[–] elekitty@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Beat tetris but you have to listen to the music on loop until you beat it

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TBF unlike adults, children have all the free time to master video games.

[–] ooli@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

do they? It is hard to concentrate so long on something to be able to master it this way. As a child I couldnt do any thing requiring a little bit of concentration, even video game more than 2h... watchning tv mindlessly, I stull can do it for hours on end