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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And ECC memory still isn't standard in PC computers

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] Toes@ani.social 7 points 1 day ago

I used to be a part of an anticheat dev team and we discovered that this was a common problem back in the Windows XP era.

We added a routine to check the memory addresses used after a crash and notified the user if we suspected hardware failure.

At the time we suspected unstable overclocks because the metrics showed us the computers affected were typically overclocked as well.

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The 90% are caused by Fhqwhgads.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Fhqwhgads pushes every bit to the limit.

[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago

Figures, sorry. 

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I really don't remember the last time Firefox crashed on me and I've been using it for many years

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I often have to kill it because it refuses to load things on new tabs.

I do use a VPN extension with it, so it could be that, but the result is the same.

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Yeah same here. Sometimes I think some people either have no clue how to use a computer or they do it on purpose and then complain.

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Technically every that happens on a computer is a bit flip 😏

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Nonconsensual bitflips

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 133 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Firefox kept crashing on me a few days ago. Decided to run MemTest86 and sure enough. Bad RAM.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago

Ouch, my condolences to your wallet

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Time to make a compromise by buying the cheapest €130 8GB stick.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago

Luckily for me, I was already running 64GB so now I’m down to 32GB. I can try to wait it out. -_- I don’t really need that much anyway, but I’m glad I had it when it was cheap

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 77 points 2 days ago (45 children)

Guess Linus was right again to only use ECC RAM.

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is how dev humblebrag sounds like.
Our app is so stable only random hardware events like bitflips can crash it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

LOL, nah, Firefox isn't that stable. If 10% of crashes were caused by bad RAM, it means 90% were still caused by something else.

(My install regularly gets a memory leak that eventually makes my system unusable, BTW. I don't think it's necessarily the fault of Firefox itself -- more likely Javascript running in tabs, maybe interacting with an extension or something, and some of the blame goes to the kernel's poor handling of low memory conditions -- but it's definitely not "dev humblebrag stable" for me.)

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 days ago

10% of all crashes is definitively a brag. Crashes due to faulty hardware/bitflips is rare rare, generally I would expect that percentage to be less than 1% in any complex app

[–] Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

A lot of these crashes were caused by third party security software injecting code into firefox. There was also some malware, and utilities like driver helpers.

I don't have precise numbers, but you may be able to search for it.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I flip my bits looking at porn using FireFox and that shit almost never crashes 🤷‍♂️

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 55 points 2 days ago (9 children)

*interest in parity-checking server RAM intensifies*

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

What makes Firefox more susceptible to bitflips than any other software? Wouldn't that mean that 10% of all software crashes are caused by bitflips and it just depends what software you are running when that happens.

[–] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they're arguing that Firefox is more susceptible to bit flips. They're trying to say that their software is "solid" enough that a significant number of the reported crashes are due to faulty hardware, which is essentially out of their control.

If other software used the same methodology, you could probably use the numbers to statistically compare how "solid" the code base is between the two programs. For example, if the other software found that 20% of their crashes were caused by bit flips, you could reasonably assume that the other software is built better because a smaller portion of their crashes is within their control.

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[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This checks out with Linus Torvalds saying most OS crashes across linux AND windows are caused by hardware issues, and also why he uses ECC RAM.

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