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Students in Massachusetts will get free lunch and breakfast at school thanks to a new 4% tax put on people who earn more than $1 million.

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[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 164 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We need different terms for people who HAVE a million dollars and people who MAKE a million per year. Lots of people will read this millionaire's tax and think it will apply to them when they are nearing retirement since they finally have a million dollars after saving all their life.

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[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's easier to sell a tax hike if you know exactly where it's going :)

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unless you're Waukesha, Wisconsin, where they specifically voted to stop giving kids handouts (i.e. free lunch). Because, you know, kids should work for their food or something instead of using their energy to learn.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

probably the same people that say abortion is murdering kids...

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, cheap labor has to come from somewhere... Where do you find empoverished people to exploit if you don't force births?

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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

kids just don’t want to work anymore these days. they’re too busy with their avocados and ipad games. meanwhile the child unemployment rates are at historical highs. won’t someone think of the economy?

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[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

"It's about time these kids had some skin in the game!"

-Some Republican Somewhere I'm sure.

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The descriptor "free" misleads - this is exactly the type of thing taxes were always meant to pay for.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

This I have always hated the "FREE STUFF!" talking point and how the mainstream bought it.

I'm not talking about demanding some middle class guy be forced to buy me an Xbox, but rather I'm asking multiple billionaires start paying just a little more in taxes (instead of ya know.. constant rebates for "cReAtInG JoBs") so that little Timmy doesn't die of untreated pediatric cancer.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's mad that children could some how not deserve or accumulate debt to eat. It's even more mad that its exactly what happens.

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[–] sQuirrel21@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Free school meals should be a given since our taxes should go to what our elected officials have so thoughtfully decided where to apply them. What no one rarely brings up let alone tries to solve is the disgusting and unsafe food that the local, state and fed officials decide to make available. There's too much politics in cafeteria food. They should focus there budget in getting healthy food not the cheapest, uncles cousins or corporate friend contract.

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[–] Sir_Kevin@discuss.online 65 points 1 year ago (16 children)

It's not a free lunch. It's just your taxes going to something you actually benefit from.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No shit. It literally says where the money that pays for it comes from right in the headline.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

I think the point of the comment was that in the last few decades the rhetoric has been: "Taxes bad" "Government provides free bus passes to underprivileged people" Always divorcing taxes from their positive effects on society. Maybe they were trying to fight that by directly uniting the fact that the government is just a coordinator, collecting taxes and using it to buy lunches for kids.

"4% tax on millionaires pays for breakfasts and lunches for all school children" unlike the above example, is a sentence that reminds people that taxes are what provides these many positive social benefits they recieve, not "the government", not "for free", and that taxes aren't always "bad".

Or maybe I'm projecting!

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[–] Sternout@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Of course it is free for the children.

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[–] TruTollTroll@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's great news! No kid should ever be hungry at school, especially when they really are legally forced to be there!

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

But that will teach them that free stuff is good which will make them communists who love big government!!1! I want children to hunt for their own food like in the good old days. Didn't catch anything? Too bad little Timmy, guess you won't eat tonight because we don't got no welfare state!

Also I believe in protecting the children and am pro-life.

/s

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

State House News Service, an independently owned news wire, reported that $1 billion of the state's record $56.2 billion fiscal budget for 2024 came from the state's new 4% tax on millionaires. Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey signed the budget on Wednesday, making Massachusetts the eighth state to adopt a free school lunch plan since federal free school lunches which started during the COVID-19 pandemic ended.

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

COVID response is wild because for like 2 years we had a robust expansion of both direct government aid and healthcare coverage and accessibility, and the poof most of it disappeared. Like we literally had free healthcare at point of service for one disease which is crazy.

Great to see that at least some states responding to the demand for these heightened services. We should be pointing towards the example of COVID aid to show what the government can do if the public pressure is there. If we did it once we can do it again!

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a student who grew up attending Massachusetts public schools, this is fantastic news. Just wish that could have been me!

I used to bring a lot of boxed lunch in most days instead because school lunches were an unnecessary expense, but sometimes I'd buy school lunch if it was one I liked.

I don't know if this applies everywhere, but my school district at least had a needs-based free lunch (and breakfast) program for those from low income families, but honestly all students deserve to eat a healthy and nutritious meal during school, which I am sure also takes quite a bit of stress off of parents.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The trouble with needs based programs is that students who receive the free lunch then get shamed by other students for being poor. Thus the movement to give the lunch to everyone. The cost per student is fairly low compared to the other expenses of running a school. Plus there are savings resulting from getting rid of the bureaucracy that figures out who is needy enough to get a free lunch, getting rid of the payment collection operation, etc, that partly offset the cost of the additional free lunches.

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[–] goforliftoff@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cool, but you know who isn’t getting a free lunch now? Those millionaires who worked so hard for that money. What have those kids done to earn theirs?

/s, to be clear. I wish these cool places to live (e.g, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Michigan) weren’t so fucking cold. Why can’t there be a nice liberal southern state?

[–] zdrvr@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

There is. It is California and a 500sqft house cost $1000000000

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[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

But but that's socialism

[–] Hnazant@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Indiana did free meals, then announced kids had to get approved nicknames like Florida...

[–] fylkenny@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are approved nicknames? That's usually not how nicknames work.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I read an article about it recently. If a student asks to be called by a name other than the one they were registered with (for example, Benjamin asks to be called Ben or William asks to be called Sir Buttface) the school is supposed to inform the parents and get approval. A "side" effect of this is outing trans kids to their parents.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

[https://www.investmentnews.com/welcome-to-the-millionaires-tax-240997](An overview for those that don't know anything about this.)

Edit: fixed the link An overview for those that don't know anything about this.

a 4% surtax on individual earnings above $1 million. This new provision, which comes into effect from Jan. 1, 2023, will be layered over the preexisting 5% state income tax rate.

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[–] just_the_ticket@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like the us is always 20 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to things that actually matter.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Common sense rules in these blue areas.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Good. Now slap a 0 to the end of that 4, and then double it.

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Made me curious what the total tax rate would be in Mass. Apparently it has a flat 5% income tax, plus 4% millionaires tax, plus federal rate for income over about 578k is 37%, so altogether it’s 46% for income over a mil in Mass.

Definitely think it should be higher for such wildly high income. Also disappointed to see for being a relatively progressive state Mass has a flat rather than progressive income tax.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Definitely think it should be higher for such wildly high income.

Higher, nothing. There should be a rate above which it's taxed at 100%. No one needs to be as rich as Musk or Zuckerberg or Bezos.

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