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[–] db2@lemmy.world 129 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Fuck anyone who dances for Trump, including Afroman. I'm glad he won, it was the only correct outcome, but he can fuck off.

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[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 74 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that picture kills the appreciation of Afroman pretty much entirely - and I'm quite sad about that...

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Speaking to AllHipHop, Afroman clarified, ‘I’m not supporting him. I just met him. And yes, my campaign is full effect.’ He continued, ‘We were both at the Libertarian National Conference trying to get nominated and get their votes and we saw each other.'”

Context is important. This is from when Afroman ran for president.

https://allhiphop.com/news/afroman-addresses-patriotic-photo-opp-with-donald-trump/

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Afroman is a Windows 95 wallpaper set to Tile.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’m not defending Afroman here, and 2024 you don’t get the “I didn’t know” pass, but, dudes a weed libertarian, not to be taken very seriously in the first place. Seems like he wasn’t very politically engaged before then.

Like Ron and Rand Paul, and broken clocks, and all libertarians, they are right twice a day, and they loooove crowing about it.

Let ‘em. The idea he’s promoting in this case is correct.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Why in the fuck are we praising patriotism here? It's literally just religious-like devotion to a nation state, and basically result of nationalism

Without knowing either of those people, they might be just as patriotic and it's equally as bad.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Wanting to improve your society is a form of patriotism.

America are the ones who have convinced everyone it's the opposite

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

patriotism /pā′trē-ə-tĭz″əm/ noun

Love of and devotion to one's country.

Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one's country; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one's country.

Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one's compatriots; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one's country.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Improving your country IS serving it. Non Americans do it all the time, the act just isn't associated with the word because the US has a media industry built to hijack the meaning of things. Don't make me start talking all pro-social and hope pilled, I'm not that guy anymore.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Exactly. That's kind of the difference between being patriotic and nationalistic.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's so fucking backwards. I should be considered a patriot. I want Americans to have access to Healthcare and education. I want Americans to thrive and do great things. But no... Apparently the definition of patriotism over here is "I don't care about other people, I only care about me, and also, kill brown people in other countries"

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[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I’m patriotic in the sense that I want what is best for my countrymen. I want that to be done in a manner where both me and my country are ethical and productive members of our global society.

This has nothing to do with blind, religious-like devotion.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

my dude, why do you not love where you live? are you not connected to it?

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“Nationalism is an infantile disease, it is the measles of mankind.”

That being said, a lot of “normies” use patriotism as a stand-in for a certain set of beliefs. I don’t love it but the “Shining City on the Hill” is better than the Third Reich.

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[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He cozied up to Trump apparently fyi.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today 35 points 1 month ago

I'm glad he won this case, but he's also a transphobe.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Fuck the police” is literally why America was founded.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Disregard the establishment, surely; It was some time ago.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And plan/build a worse establishment.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As bad as things are in the current moment I'm not sure theres a strong case that living under a literal monarchy with zero Democratic representation and no meaningful civil liberties was better 😅

The handful of merits of the American establishment may be currently disintegrating under the wright of neo-fascism, but the establishment the founders built, explicitly flawed though it was/is, is definitely a better establishment than imperialist monarchical British rule

[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think the millions of slaves in America would disagree when the British empire outlawed slavery 30 years earlier without having a civil war over the issue.

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[–] WandowsVista@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

for everyone in this thread defending Afroman, saying that one picture with Trump was just a photo-op during his presidential run and doesn't reflect his values, I'd urge you to read this article about a song he really wanted to sing at Trump rallies.

Afroman Explains His New Song: Hunter Got High

I think the takeaway here is that while he may not be a full blown facist, he's willing to align with them to make a buck, which is kinda the main issue with the US gov right now.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fyi Afroman may be a Trump supporter.

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[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Cant we all just agree to hate cops and move on?

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

I watched his questioning. He was fucking awesome!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ironically, this is a rare instance where the guy plastered with flags is indeed the patriot

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

apparently he talked with Trump about legalization. he explicitly said "don't take that photo as support" and will probably use it as an "i was on stage with Trump 'cause I got high" lyric in his song because honestly, it would explain a lot. ever do something because you think it'll look funny later and then it turns out you just met hitler? because i have a couple photos from the 90s I can show NOBODY. afroman's from another time.

i can't remember when i saw afroman, because i was high, but it was a good show

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Oh :( Seems the exception confirmed the rule

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