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This is huge
The right-wing candidate who said "stop the war on cars" was defeated.
The leftist who said "My goal is to make sure Grégoire loses" was defeated
HOORAY! (Not a Frenchman, just someone who likes alternatives to cars anywhere)
Sounds like something a Frenchman would say....
My take is that billionaires and large companies don't put as much money (proportionally) in municipal elections as they do in country elections. When real people vote, you get Gregoire or Mamdani.
It's wayyyy too close either way.
A ten percent lead city wide in these conditions is still considered a spanking.
Oooh yeah París about to get quadruple pedestrianized. Bravo París, j'en suis fière
Moi, j'en suis jealoux!
Haha vous avez raison, salut d'Ontario
Hi from Georgia!
(LOL, bet you thought I was from Montreal or something, didn't you? I've been learning French because I want to be in places that speak it, not because I'm from a place that speaks it.)
Hahaha oui c'est vrai, mais en fait le français est ma troisième langue aussi
bet you thought I was from Montreal or something
Because of the typo in jaloux ?
L'Amérique peut aussi élire des urbanistes ; regardez Seattle et Baltimore.
"The leftist who said "My goal is to make sure Grégoire loses" was defeated"
why do we have these
there's another way to phrase "I am going to lose and I want Greg to lose and Donklus is the only other person running"
glad she didn't "save Palestine" though gj to the percent of Paris that did the not dumb thing
In Italy is the same and it's one of the reasons we're getting fascists elected everywhere
Tankies are everywhere, especially here on Lemmy. Their main enemy is the center left, just as they always were. Remember that the German communists branded the social democrats as social fascists and considered them almost as bad the literal Nazis.
I would definetely not call France Insoumise tankies. Their platform is basically what the Socialist Party's platform was in the 80s, they pretty much only have a niche to occupy only because the socialists moved so far to the right. That being said, they do have the benefit of being vocal on anti-racist and anti-colonial policies.
I wish they were actual tankies. In France. The French Communist Party has some Marxist-Leninist memberd, but they are not the majority of the party right now. For a while, the PCF was in an Alliance with the Parti de Gauche (the precursor to France Insoumise), and only took parts in elections as part of this alliance. But Mélenchon, who used to rule Parti de Gauche and now rules France Insoumise, stopped making concessions to the Communist Parti (such as supporting their candidates in the few Communist Parti strongholds left in France), which was seen as a betrayal, and so the Communist parti elected as its leader Fabien Roussel, who is less favorable to alliances with FI unless there are other parties in it as well to avoid the PCF getting fully absorbed as a satellite of FI.
The problem is that despite the core of the PCF's program being further left than FI's program, the rethoric used by Roussel, the pojects he puts forwards and the ones he chooses to ally with are increasingly further right wing than FI. With FI being new and having more momentum, they're the ones often demonized by the center and Roussel's strategy is to make the PCF appear less scary than them. He is cultivating an older and whiter electorate that can be nostalgic of the time when the PCF was strong and scared of the new and strange FI. I would've liked the PCF to instead go further left than FI. But unfortunately, its move right is kind of in the continuation of the de-stalinisation that happened after the fall of tbe USSR. It's a party with a rich history, more of an internal democracy than FI and deep ties with unions and other organizations, but the way it's headed, it can't go very far.
Then you have Force Ouvrière, a Trotskyite party. Problem with them is they kinda have their butt between two chairs. They take part in elections just to get known, while claiming the true change must come from a revolution... But aside from selling newspapers, they're not doing much organizing. They're neither really giving themselves the mean to act either in the political world or in the streets. They're not in favor of seeking improvements through unions or electoral politics because they think small improvements will stop people from wanting to revolt.
This description fits most of the small leftist groups in France, but despite their similarities, their attachement to ideological purity keeps them from banding together
The guys who literally collaborated the nazis? No shit
Beside aren't you one of them genocide influencer whining about everybody being "antisemite"?
He is, but that isn't relevant right now. Smearing center left does not help the broader leftist project. It's always "left unity" when it comes to anarchists and social democrats listening to authoritarian Marxists, but never the other way around. I consider "left unity" an authoritarian dog whistle at this point
Oh fuck off. French socialists have voted for every liberal bullshit for a decade. The pension reform?
Does anybody know if the 38.5% who abstained were people who went to the polls and checked a box to abstain, or if they're just counting the number of eligible voters vs. the number of votes cast?
Abstention is people registered on the voters list that didn't turn up to vote. Blanc are people that turn up to cast a null vote.
Thanks, that's helpful.
Having seen traffic in Paris, I'd say it's already anti-car.
I think I read that the pro-car candidate in second place there was wanting to change that. Edit: Oh, or do you mean that there's still too much cars around that they all get stuck in traffic? Yeah I can imagine.
I used to hate paris but last time i was there it was quite pleasant. And quiet
not anti-car, but pro-humans.
carbrainers like to shout that you need stroads everywhere and to kick kids from bikes
but, if you want fewer traffic jams, a calmer driving experience, you NEED high-quality public transit, separated bicycle lanes, etc. everywhere.
Good for the anticar part but french socialists are on par with the UK labour. A bunch of corrupted genocidal idiots
Yes, unironically this is to the benefit of fascists and the ruling class. Neo-liberals adopting the aesthetics of leftist parties do not address the material underlying conditions which push people towards more extremist ideology, so by the time the next election rolls around, people feel like the left "betrayed" them and vote for the far-right, despite the fact that they never elected an actual leftist in the first place.
There is always major differences between municipal and national elections. I'll agree with you when it comes to national elections. But the socialists have been leading Paris since 2001. Both mayors since have been reelected after their first mandate. So, they must be doing something right at the city level! And now, Paris is about to have a third socialist mayor in a row, amounting to at least 31 continuous years of socialist leadership in Paris.
I am disappointed with their politics at a national level. But when I was living in Paris I was pretty happy with what they were doing with the city.
Wasn't Hidalgo super pro bike and peds? Was there a term limit or did she lose election to him?
She said in 24 she wouldn't seek a third, I couldn't find a reason besides vaguely implying "out of respect to the Parisians".
She probably just knew she was on shaky ground. I think she played that smart, it's already pretty wild she got 2 terms seeing how mad some people were at her after the first one
I'm not sure if the people living in Paris were mad. It might be the people who commute that hated her anti-car politics.
On the other hand we are talking about a nation that wanted to put a highway interchange in the middle of Paris ...
Lots of rich Parisians were and are still mad. Also taxis because closing some roads to motor vehicles hurt their little mafia
Since when are the socialists not the leftists?
At least as far as François Hollande's presidency.
Since hollande the softie
Time to start the war on cars ☺️
Yeah but he opposes antifascism so.....
Bouá
Great news, but I would love more Sophia Chikirou to win.
Félicitations, Paris !
Merde alors.