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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Authoritarians love to run the lives of others different from their own.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 years ago

They don't actually have good reasons to think they're better than others, so separating themselves physically and in how they live is often enough. They just need to feel that rules don't apply to them but do apply to others, and that they have influence over those rules.

It's about re-enforcing an already twisted worldview that isn't justified in any way, using the most obtuse of reasonings for why they must clearly be superior, and thus why they "deserve" to work from home. Just like they "deserve" to be able to snort cocaine off their secretary's tits, because they've "earned it", damn it (by being born to a rich family, of course).

[–] RandomPancake@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm a boss. My criteria for evaluating whether an employee continues to be allowed to work remotely full time is:

  1. Can their job be done remotely?
  2. Is the job getting done remotely?

If the answer to both is "yes", then I'm happy to let them work just about anywhere they'd like.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

You are boss who rocks. Thank you for being you.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

If 2 is not being fulfilled, it should really be a fire decision

[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He adds: "CEOs and CFOs are looking at that lease or redecoration cost in their profit and loss statements and fixating on it as a bad financial decision that needs to be course-corrected — and in their minds, requiring people to use the space they're paying for is the best way to do that."

And then they lay off 25% of the workforce. The executive class's mindset resembles insanity.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember folks, your preparation/travel time and budget for commuting to and eating at work is a free subsidy to both your employer and business real estate companies that is coming out of your life/pocket.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Plus all that foot traffic in the business districts, where nobody lives btw because of dumb zoning laws, will increase the real estate value because of the ancillary businesses that arise in that district to serve that stream of people.

When people stop going into those business districts those smaller ancillary businesses, like the shops and restaurants, will of course go bankrupt first. Which in turn will lower the value of those offices. And since the companies that own those building are using that real estate value to secure loans, they will be put at risk. It’s basically a house of cards that will collapse. Simply because people are working remotely and outdated zoning laws.

It’s why San Francisco’s business district is turning into a ghost town.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Not to mention most modern office buildings can't be converted into what is actually useful—housing. They need to be simply scrapped and replace.

If we adopted more mixed use zoning, there wouldn't be this juggling act and waste. Cities could adapt to needs.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Well put. I hope this reconfigures cities to be more people oriented and forces better zoning.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not just lease costs. It's insurance /Liability, HVAC, cleaning services, toilet paper, med kits...so much money is being spent just to make it possible for people to just sit at a desk and zoom into meetings.

Honestly...I don't know why boards of directors aren't screaming for CEOs to drop RTO requirements purely from a profit perspective...unless those board members are also the same landlords of these office buildings.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

guess what they did with all that excess money they couldn't spend? buy property to rent out

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 11 points 2 years ago

Bosses want to work from ~~home~~ their ivory towers

FTFY