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[–] ImitationLimitation@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

For all those that truly believe this is no big deal, and honestly believe it’s about kids, and think all the commenters in here are silly or tin hat wearers… go read this:

https://lemmy.ml/post/46083470

Short version: US based company providing age verification has US Govt. surveillance within their stack that adds you to all kinds of potential lists, among other concerns. It also serves as a huge honeypot of data just waiting to be breached, and it will be breached.

For those in the back not paying attention: THIS IS NOT ABOUT KID SAFETY, IT’S ABOUT TRACKING YOU AND YOUR KIDS!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Finally, torrenting Linux distros becomes a thing, rather than a curiosity

[–] Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

When these guys say "think of the children!", it's usually with their hands down their own pants.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the future, you'll be sentenced to 10 years hard labour for a contraband OS while children are raped openly at lavish parties.

[–] BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You will be sent to die for Israel 🤣

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

🎶Your government is run by pedophiles! 🎶

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Regulate the social networks instead

[–] Sprinks@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I feel like OS age verification is similar to when they started asking for zip codes at checkout (U.S.). At first it was seen as weird and brushed off as harmless, but now they shamelessly ask for your email and phone number and get annoyed when you say no.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Palantir really wants it's fucking database.

All because Petey truly believes that there are demons living in the United States.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

He is right, demons live in US. They are in various Federal, State, Local and Corporate functions. For example current Federal government are all demons (pretty much) and all of ICE employees. Demon here is "spirit or lesser humanity" or simly said Inhuman individuals.

[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (8 children)

there are demons living in the USA. all Petey has to do to find the closest one... is look in a mirror.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m so sick of this depraved pedophile oligarch Mossad shit

[–] phx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

The ONLY way I could remotely support age verification is if it was anonymized from the individual, similar to how companies like Mullvad do their VPN or with prepaid gift cards etc

You get a card that has a PIN behind a scratch-off section. You can buy the card for cash or order online, but there's nothing tying the buyer to the card.

Age verification can be similar where you go to a registered location, provide valid ID and like $5 to get a scratch off card. The code on the card just validates "user is 18+" but otherwise has no ties back to their actual identity.

If a site wants to do an age check, it can validate the card PIN or on phone potentially scan a 3d barcode behind the scratch-off. Maybe some hash check could be involved to avoid the need for a centralized provider.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The German ID card has that functionality. Date of birth is saved on the chip card and you can identify yourself via NFC reader and the open source ID app. You can see what information is transmitted before sending it. In the case of age verification, it would only be "underage yes/no". It's not perfect but pretty good from a privacy standpoint.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Or we could just let people do what they want on their own god damn computers.

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 day ago

Like... "This"

My computer, regardless of the OS that it runs, should do my bidding and only my bidding.

If I want to enable or disable something, that should be my prerogative.

I commented in a similar thread and I'll restate it here:

I do support parental controls being an option, and will use the whole Free-Market thing and choose to use an OS that has parental controls for my children -- but I am also happy to see my children evade my restrictions with their knowledge and skills. And, more specifically, these need to be OPT-IN. As a parent, I can create an account and identify it as supervised or give it an age range, and that's all cool. What isn't cool is making me Verify* MY age range in order to create an account on a device I own.

*especially verification that involves giving up my privacy, such as face scan, government ID or similar PII. We used to have laws protecting this data. I've helped build whole systems to ensure that only trained admins had rights to access customer PII.

H.R. 8250 is an attack on freedom to use... everything... It's so vague, and doesn't even describe it's terms the way the California bill does. A Missile developed by Lockheed Martin has an Operating System and I'm certain that if I had one in my hands I could make it run DOOM, thus making it a 'General Purpose Computing Device'.

... Maybe those Doom-on-fridge/toaster people were on to something. Samsung, LG, etc need to quickly evaluate their fucking toasters to ensure they can't run DOOM, or ensure they can verify a user's age before enabling toasting.

I also (dis)like how section 2.A.5.i will require the commission to describe how every operating system will verify a parent or legal guardian's age's within 6 months and then have an effective date of a year. Has anyone involved with writing this bill done software development?! Sure, this sounds simple on paper, but I have a 30+ year plan to actually implement it; because I'm a volunteer open source dev working on my OS in my free time without pay.

Anyone looking at this and thinking it's a good idea, take a moment to think about this: Who has resources to dedicate whole teams to implementing this privacy invasion? It's the big players like Microslop, Apple, Google, and a handful of Enterprise-grade Linux/Unix providers. Anyone else could face financial ruin for distributing their home-grown OS experiment if it gets enough attention and that will prevent new distros or operating systems from being developed, leading to effectively regulatory capture by the existing players. That's not going to end well.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

This would still be a bad idea as porn is still available elsewhere online.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 114 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Rules being implemented and enforced by actual pedophiles

[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago

Waiting for half of the fediverse to excuse devs complying in advance again.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 94 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Okay, what is this bill actually saying?

That soon, you won't even be able to own most computers without registering it under a government ID?

Because that's fucking nuts.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Make guns connect to the internet and watch what happens then.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 293 points 3 days ago

There's NOTHING Safer than having the Epstein Class KNOW where Kids are and WHEN they're Home Alone!

-US Politicians!

[–] Vieric@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Has Bipartisan support too. The corporations want this, and both of our parties listen to them first and us a distant second. Catering to corporate wants is about the only thing the two parties can agree on. It's probably going to pass, even if I hope it doesn't. Buckle up my friends...

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 211 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Remember folks, age verification is personal identity verification.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Everyone will also be automatically registered to vote Republican.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 160 points 3 days ago (21 children)

"Key questions remain unanswered, such as the definition of “operating system provider,” the type of verification required, the focus on major commercial platforms, and the potential scope beyond them."

I guarantee this bill is unenforceable. Cars, phones, traffic lights all have have computers with operating systems. All modern tech has an operating system of some sort. Also how do you even verify age? If my laptop is offline can I just not use it because it can't confirm my id? What about tech that never goes online but has an OS, like a calculator? I can't believe microsoft and apple are not lobbying against this. Who becomes liable if an "underage" person is accidentally given access or if access is denied to an "of age" person. I can just imagine an emt frantically looking for their driver's license so they can use the computerized defibrillator.

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[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Now do you see why I don't trust government?

Because it does things like this. And it's not just our US government doing it. The entire world is getting more and more authoritarian.

Government seeks power. Always. Which is why it must always be restrained.

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 110 points 3 days ago (10 children)

They cant even define an OS. Do i need a fucking login for my wifi fridge and toaster. Such a stupid ffucking law.

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Internet is built upon and requires anonymous participation! This is an attempt to end privacy...

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yup, from the party of pedophiles

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Meta, etc pushing this so that they don’t have to.

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