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[–] VeloRama@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Conservatives are already implementing lots of the AfD's policies from only a few years ago. They don't need to be in power, they're already setting the agenda.

[–] parson0@startrek.website 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democracy doesn't work without education, I'm sick and tired of these idiots voting for their own, and my, executioners

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Do or organise the education.

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. It's the duty of the government to provide education. This can't be off-loaded to the populace. We have to organize mass protests and eliminate the means for propaganda, starting with the shit tech bros come up with.

Anyone who wants (and can) provide additional education is always welcome and highly encouraged of course.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Education is an essential part of controlling the government. If it is organised by the government the population could as well let the government control itself or let it select its successor.

[–] SomeOneWithA_PC@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Problem here is also capitalism. If those who have capital/own and make their money through owning have all the time free and still make more money. -> more money -> can pay more to others to do what they want. -> those with more can do and organize more of "their" education -> democracy still fucked by capitalism or not, depending on who has the capital and what those want -> not democratic (, as only some are deciding what is done and those are not even the one who know stuff).

[–] parson0@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I volunteer in the community and strike up the political conversations there. Most people prefer to believe a pretty lie over the truth. At least the 60+ folks I get in touch with.

My voice is there, but I am competing against most news outlets and centrist/right politicians spinning their anti-immigrant and pro-war rhetoric. If headlines are put in print, people believe them.

I'm not able to teach people to critically think or question the truth and intent of what the political majority tells them. Sadly, I've tried and am at a loss and tired. If you have ideas how to do this, please share.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I think that it is important to have something to look forward to, to strive for. Fighting against something is powerful but doesn't create a community.

I also think that it is important to keep in mind that the elite is doing divide and conquer of the workers. The right and essentially any group is made of humans who can be allies.

Personally I think that even billionaires can do the right thing and can be seen as workers but that's controversial.

Then it's important to acknowledge that the deception runs deep.

Iran war sparks EU proposal to reduce tax on electricity and encourage green transition

https://feddit.org/post/28673704

Why have people accepted those taxes in the first place?

I’m not able to teach people to critically think or question the truth

People are so broken that they don't even have ambitions to think for themselves.

I think it is very helpful to engage anyway. It creates the mindspace for those who can bring a change.

To construct change, it would be necessary to analyse reality and to question everything because whatever we believe today is keeping everything running as it is.

Of course, the right ideas most likely already exist in huge parts, but not in a way that is accessable for the masses.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The media creates the nazi party's popularity by the way.

Success is always broadcasted, failure never.

The same way media reports multiple times as often on stock markets losing value than gaining value.

[–] SomeOneWithA_PC@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

And who is media? The good old follow the money. Sure there is also money on good progressive things, but currently some wealthy invest more into things that help those few wealthy people. Democracy means a majority should decide but this is undermined by money from few very wealthy influencing decisions by a majority, so that you could say decisions are influenced and done by a few wealthy without good intentions for majority of people.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Well said. By the way the AfD have been reported on, especially in foreign press you would assume at least a quarter of German towns are run by nazis by now but that couldn‘t be more wrong. They are awfully unsuccessful simply because they are too nationalist and don‘t care about local cultures, customs or problems at all. You can see it in their bland advertisements. They don‘t care about your town so they don‘t get to be mayor. It‘s that simple.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And still losing in the communal elections ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Sadly that doesn‘t generate clicks so we have to keep telling people fascism is coming and resistance is futile. We need that sweet advertising money after all. Democracy be damned.

[–] Zabjam@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah - the question is how long this will continue. They have already learned that they will keep losing on that front if they do not start looking more appealing. The tone in social media has changed and they are advertising with local issues and what not.

They are still the same shitstain Nazis underneath this "we care about our community" paint job. But they see their problem in local governments and are trying to solve it. I worry that it will not be too long until they start to be successful in local elections

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There is only one solution to right wing authoritarian populism and that's left wing libertarian populism.

Europe really needs to get over cold war red scare propaganda.

[–] doenertellerversace@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Left wing libertarianism is an oxymoron, woke FDP isn’t going to solve anything.

[–] kohlenstoff@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You got it the wrong way around. Left libertarianism (which is now commonly called anarchism) has been going strong for at least a century (and likely has its roots way back in indigenous people organizing themselves) until Rothbard and his ghouls took over the term for their shitty ideology in the 60s.

Food for thought: How do you think people organized themselves before some white dudes had thoughts about monarchies.

But you can always dream of a hierarchical structure that magically does not oppress its weakest members or corrupts its leadership if that is your cup of tea.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago

Being left libertarian in the usa is always a fun conversation with others, especially in a extremely conservative state. Generally I don't even use the term due to the confusion.

[–] Shyze3D@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

There is never only one solution to complex problems and it is certainly not some new combination of political phrases

communication from other parties is abysmal to non-existent in my experience

i can't remember when was the last time that a big party said "that's what we want, that's what we're gonna do, that's the goal and we'll make it". it's all accusing each other and a mudthrowing party.

the afd at least offers goals. they say "we'll kick out the immigrants and take back our country". that sounds good. at least it gives people hope. that's why they vote afd

we need more parties that actually want something instead of throwing mud around non-stop. we need to go back to the basics and iterate about what people want and how do we get there.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

what happened to the German Greens ?

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hovering around 15% in polls but struggling to get more due to a bashing campaign pretty much everyone else but spearheaded by the conservatives.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

They got the thick end of the stick of conservative and right wing propaganda

[–] MadameBisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Media did a succesful bashing campaign

[–] SomeOneWithA_PC@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Media". Money is what happens all the time. More money was invested into bashing them and it worked.

[–] katkit@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

What I'm mainly wondering is why they basically ceded, moved to the right and don't talk about it anymore. They did pick up some steam online recently in adressing the fossil corruption, but nothing much about being basically beaten in line. Do they think it's not worth it?

I suppose some of the more center greens like Özdemir aren't that unhappy about the party's changed orientation at least.

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They are a party for the wealthy, like the other parties.

They are the FDP for people who want to ease their ecological cobscience when driving to the organic supermarket in their hybrid SUV to buy themselves a soy latte packaged in single-use plastic.

With the German Greens, all you'll get is neoliberalism with rainbow flags. And getting beaten up by cops for protesting against brown coal strip mining eradicating entire forests and villages, because why not?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Because the Polanski Greens are offering a real left alternative.