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Dependence on SpaceX has been a concern for the Pentagon, which wants multiple vendors of rides to orbit.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The important part about this is that Vulcan doesn't just use yet another Russian bought rocket engine. It uses BE-4, from Blue Origin. Finally, someone other than SpaceX building rockets. Too bad it's the other out of touch billionaire with too much power and influence that is doing it.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right? What could possibly go wrong by putting our future in space in the hands of a bunch of narcissistic dickbag billionaires?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody ever said it we start spreading into space, we won't be taking all our current problems with us. Star Trek kinda gave us a rosy vision.

[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's probably going to be more like the Expanse but more violent, oppressive, and jingoistic.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

The expanse makes it very clear that there was no shortage of space oppression before the events that occur in the books

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Rosy? Star Trek said we had to go through a nuclear apocalyptic war before learning to cooperate.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well... Capability wise there's still a huge gap between SpaceX and all the rest. The Vulcan is only competition for Falcon 9 because the DoD wants an alternative at all cost.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, this is not a competitor in terms of cost or launch cadence. Just good to have any second option.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

India and China have active space programs, and all other concerns aside, the more, the merrier. I really hope ESA starts demonstrating some progress; it's about the only thing that could shame the US Gov into properly funding NASA.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 10 months ago

So the company is called Vulcan?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not really able to compete with SpaceX on price. But with customers like the DOD or Kuiper, there's probably a market for someone who isn't SpaceX.

https://youtu.be/wD3MruC-FTc

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they can compete in very specific cases - like heavy load to GTO. Falcon Heavy would require full expenditure of all 3 cores to match, which wouldn't be much cheaper. Plus the larger fairing size helps with certain kinds of satellites.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but gto with fairings bigger then even the extended falcon heavy fairing willing to accept higher costs is a very narrow use case, I doubt it would support the whole vehicle. I'm guessing they will get quite a bit of business from trying to diversity away from SpaceX though.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

the point is that it isn't higher cost for those missions. Falcon Heavy will have to run at 100% expended mode which is nearly the same cost as Vulcan.

And some missions and payloads outright exclude falcon Heavy, period. High orbit and/or large satellites.

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