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    [โ€“] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

    Ya'll in this comment section are making things more confusing somehow.

    Free Open Source Software:

    Is Free; available without purchase

    Is Open Source; the source code is available to study and fork

    Is Software; A series of intangible instructions that run through a compute module

    Do correct me if I'm wrong, because I've just ripped these from other comments in this thread that have been disputed unclearly.

    [โ€“] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

    Not financially free but free as in freedom. Although most foss does not need to be bought, but there are foss programs you have to buy and after you bought it you are free to do with it what you want. Although this depends on the licence and copyright. For example you can fork the code and resell it (under certain licences) but due to copyright you can not use certain things such as graphics, fonts and name (depending on their licence).

    [โ€“] semperverus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    Graphics font and name fall under trademark I believe, which separates it from copyright.

    Firefox is a famous example of this. The code for Firefox is completely open to anyone to fork and reuse, but you cannot call your fork Firefox. Mozilla retains the brand and the logo for it.

    So instead we get iceweasel.

    [โ€“] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago

    Wrong definition of โ€œfree,โ€ and funnily enough this is where the ensuing comments section confusion starts.

    [โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

    wait someone update this meme to have me drinking out of a straw chain out of the hot dude's straw chain. please title me "complete bullshit lies about FOSS"

    edit: and make me happy gollum with three teeth. that's my mood today.

    [โ€“] scrion@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
    [โ€“] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 24 minutes ago

    "Linux requires constant fixing."

    Use one of the stable distros. You generally never have to worry about breakage if you don't go looking for it.

    Linux actually has a large swath of testers using rolling release who we've tricked into feeling very superior than the rest of us. /s

    [โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

    Wine is not an emulator.

    Linux doesn't require programming knowledge to use, just computer knowledge at most.

    I seen a few go opposite end and claim "you do not need computer knowledge, you can just ask chatgpt for the commands and copy-paste."

    The two commands below are equivalent so why the fuck does every single guide online use former?

    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
    sudo apt upgrade -U
    
    [โ€“] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

    The second way doesn't work on older systems before they added it. I have some Debian servers where it doesn't work

    [โ€“] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Because I understand the former

    The latter can both summon nasal demons and not summon nasal demons. It is in a state superposition until an observer consults the manual

    [โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

    Not in apt manpage.
    But in fact at man apt-get.
    I blame the feds.

    -U and --update entry reads "Run the update command before the specified command. This is supported for commands installing, removing, or upgrading packages such as install, remove, safe-upgrade, full-upgrade. This can be useful to ensure a command always installs the latest versions, or, in combination with the-snapshot option to make sure the snapshot is present when install is being run"

    how the fuck is my apartment going to get clean then

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    [โ€“] katze@lemmy.4d2.org 43 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    Confusing "FOSS" with "free software" comes to mind.

    [โ€“] OddDeer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    But the F in FOSS stands for free. I understand that there's a lot more to unpack in the OS part of FOSS, but still, it's not quite wrong.

    [โ€“] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

    The F in FOSS stands for Libre

    [โ€“] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 31 points 20 hours ago

    Confusing "FOSS" with just "Open Source" seems like the more typical offender.

    [โ€“] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 19 points 21 hours ago (23 children)

    Count Me in the confused group, I thought FOSS was free as in speech software

    [โ€“] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 13 points 20 hours ago

    Free as in speech (software) is nowadays usually referred to as libre.

    [โ€“] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (19 children)

    English is a horrible language full of ambiguity. F/LOSS is libre, but not necessarily gratis.

    [โ€“] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    Isnโ€™t it usually the opposite, gratis (because if itโ€™s open source, you could just build it yourself, unless thereโ€™s a proprietary build env or hosted env) but not necessarily libre (because of the license?)

    So wouldnโ€™t gratis normally be the superset of libre.

    Then thereโ€™s a set of gratis but not open sourceโ€ฆ someone should do a venn diagram.

    [โ€“] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

    I could potentially just say it costs money to use this software, but allow you to build it yourself if you don't want to

    It's called Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) in case you were wondering

    [โ€“] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

    RHEL contains non-FOSS components, and so is not FOSS.

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    [โ€“] Retail4068@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    This is about some nerd telling me my Linux issues don't exist and I just need X distro?

    [โ€“] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    That's relative to situation and also usually the easier solution to a certain problem because if you need to find a solution for your distro it might come to compiling from source. So, either switch to the distro recommended or just start from Gentoo for everything. If you're using Gentoo, no nerd will tell you to switch to another distro.

    [โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    i am a nerd and want to do that just to prove a point. so switch distros! i don't know what to, i haven't used linux since college.

    [โ€“] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    wait i just figured it out switch to hannah montana because it would be funny

    [โ€“] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

    Hats off to the meme distros that actually fix a problem by the way. :)

    [โ€“] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

    If youโ€™re using Gentoo, no nerd will tell you to switch to another distro.

    Funny! Lmao

    [โ€“] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Not using the right distro is the source of everyone's problem, according to the community

    [โ€“] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    I mean, certain distros are very good at marketing themselves/becoming well known, but actually impede wider adoption of Linux due to their piss poor choices or issues that aren't apparent until they have been in use for a few months, so sometimes, yes, the answer is to move to something less broken in weird ways.

    [โ€“] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Whatever distro you end up on, someone will be in the comments to tell you why it's the wrong choice.

    Unless you're using Arch, btw

    [โ€“] solxix@pawb.social 1 points 22 minutes ago

    Except for that one person that tells you to USD Artix instead

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