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For once Yen and I see eye to eye.
given it's just because it will hurt his business, but i'm still happy for some W
What is being pushed for implementation is better described as identity verification, not age verification.
I would have little issue with a solution that purely gated services on age in a secure and privacy respecting manner. This OS level garbage is not that, its creating an oligarchy run identity gate to control access to personal computing.
Exactly. We need to adopt something like a post quantum secure, independently audited version of the EU age checking app. Way better than OS level crap.
Agreed. The model is a good start, the security of it's implementation woefully inadequate... And I agree this MUST use post quantum cryptography.
Dox-gating (yes I just made that up lol) operating systems will result in people not updating security patches.
This is an easy fix. We just make our own internet. With the usual, blackjack and hookers.
I'll stop interacting online outside of a professional context. So this obviously sucks from an online perspective. It's will dampen online organization. But hopefully it increases community level interactions IRL. It'll probably be good for day-to-day mental health.
That’s the plan. It’s about control.
I’m glad someone else sees it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every day lately. People don’t give a single shit, will minimize the danger and do anything they can to give up their rights, time and time again.
A few of us see it, sadly too few to matter.
People in the privacy communities have known this for a while.
But because it's slightly technical at minimum, and nuanced, and about something not immediately tied directly to people's financial interest, the average person will never ever know, understand, or care about this.
Whats wrong with you?! Why aren't you thinking of the children??!
already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.
it's always the yahoo idiot opinions that gain political traction, and rarely the common sense ones.
already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.
it sounds like you should switch instances to one where this opinion (fact) is shared by most.
that's not how it works. most of my harassment comes from .ml and far left instances. .ml users are especially aggressive and ignorant and eager to call you names. basically pro-authoritarian leftists.
i'm on .world. it's the most moderate instance in my experience. db0 and blahj are also instances from which i get a lot of harassment.
sadly lemmy doesn't let you block instances, only users or communities. so my user block list is like 500+ now.
Are you kidding? Instance blocking is almost necessary for surviving on Lemmy. Use a different client. Jesus bro, ya gotta block.
lemmy is a client. piefed is the only one i know that lets you block all users from an instance.
I use connect and it blocks instances. I don't see any posts from the instance and if I come across a comment from a user it'll show as blocked but I can tap to see it if I want to
why lie about a group that is strongly anti-age-verification attacking you for being anti-age-verification and off endorsements from another group that is strongly pro-age-verification supporting you for your anti-age-verification opinions?
lemmy.ml isn't a unified group. it's individual people who think all sorts of crazy shit, that is often downright contradictory.
the only stance your instance takes is being pro marixist leninist. that has nothing to do with age-verification. if anything it's pro-authoritarian bent would most likely have it align with mechanisms mass state control of individuals .
they're unified when it comes to age verification.
you're projecting. you may believe that, but that doesn't make it true for other people, on any instance.
it’s individual people who think all sorts of crazy shit, that is often downright contradictory.
Like most general purpose instances, I suppose.
When I made my account, no other instances existed and federation had not yet been implemented. I'm not hostile to Marxism-Leninism or the admins of this instance, but I'm not exactly a vocal advocate either. (Haven't done the requisite reading, I suppose.)
The good times are gone, fascism is back.
But it's in a new wrapper. Now it says "Good for humanity" on the label, still the same shit tho...
They've always done it “for the children”. Same wrapper.
So if you don't accept this "age verification patch" to your OS (and you know they won't stop with that), I assume that any attempt to connect to a website that does this check will fail and you won't be able to connect to it, right?
Well, I am just FINE with that. If I can't connect to a website, I will treat it like any other broken website and move on to another one. This is how the Internet routes around damage.
Totally valid idea, you just need to hope that there are enough people with you to give that decision weight or you'll eventually run out of alternatives.
…and extend the ability of governments and especially corporations to control what you see and hear. From ads to what “facts” they want you to see.
Lawmakers who are pushing age verification: "Win - win"