Keep in mind that the Chinese scientists have a lower pay than their American counterparts. And that sourcing materials in China is usually cheaper. So even an equal amount of spending already means a lot more research in China.
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Anytime I see these posts I have to chuckle to myself. Living in China for 5 years myself, if you trust a single thing the CCP releases, you're already screwed. Could this be true? Maybe, it's possible. That's the problem with lying about everything, and there's no independent anything to verify what they're actually coming up with, and it disclosed to anyone.
I'm sure most countries fudge numbers to a degree, China just makes them up half the time, literally. For example, their official covid death amount is 120,000 or so, but it's close to a million or more. Like I said, I'm sure countries fudge this number to some extent, but 10x is pure BS.
Damn I guess our data is super reliable instead!
China spent trillion dollars alone in renewable energy just in 2025. There is no comparison anymore especially since the current US regime only believes in oil and beautiful coal.
Not to mention the advancements in EV's, pharmaceutical, nuclear energy.
The US was never very natively scientific but it saw the power of science and so bought, imported and kidnapped its scientists. It no longer sees things so clearly but China has 20/20.
It’s way worse than that, because they get more value per unit of spend. This further confirms that China is way out in front.
U.S. dominance is in question.
I think we’re past this point, too. We no longer value or understand our position.
It’s way worse than that
Let me rephrase that: It's even better than that
We very much understand and value that position. The people running the country right now just really want to destroy that position because they, rather moronically, believe that in order to make America great again they need to make the economy and population like that of the 1950s.
Their only goal is to destroy democracy — the only legitimate threat to the oligarchs wealth and power — and implement a fascist dictatorship where the corporate oligarchy rule AmericaCorp with an iron fist.
Any other virtue signaling they do is nothing more than a distraction. They've been working towards this goal since the 70's.
Once they succeed in America they'll expand their 4th reich globally; they've been laying the groundwork for that for decades as well.
Since inception, really, but verifiable media complicity began with Hearst during the Spanish-American war, although the Business Plot shouldn't have ever allowed anyone to fall back asleep. Throw in Operations Gladio and Condor, along with Freud's nephew, Bernays, working with the US government, along with USAid, radio free *, the funding of violent Islam and fascists, Operation Paperclip, revised/whitewashed history, home ownership, auto industry, GI Bill, relative luxury on the backs of Asia, the Eastern Bloc, global South, invading/cripple sanctioning of sovereign states to checks notes prove actually existing socialism doesn't work, and lots of other wtfery, it was easy for the global West, especially USA citizens, to turn a willfully bind eye, to suck down more cheap shit, then cry foul when states they brutally oppressed somehow managed to rise to and exceed Western living standards. Throw Lee Atwater and the Southern strategy, it's no wonder I and my compatriots were thoroughly convinced the truth are commie lies and Western lies are the truth. The only excuse now is willful ignorance, though.
I’m pretty sure at this point, Trump himself just wants to burn it all down as vengeance for making him kill Epstein to hide their wrongdoings. The rest of them are dominionist Christian fascists who want to being about the rapture, slowly empowered over the past decades by the hubris of the espionage state who thought they could leverage yet control them.
And they call the liberals morons
I'm not even convinced he's dead tbh
LOL
All of our research money goes to DARPA
The federal government is no longer the largest spender in R&D: It funded about 40% of basic research in 2022, while the business sector performed roughly 78% of U.S. R&D. While not a problem in itself, industry has simultaneously withdrawn from open scientific publication over the past four decades, shifting from research toward development. The result is a shrinking pool of openly shared scientific knowledge precisely as public investment in it also contracts.
In US research spending has pretty much served to manufacture monopolies and patents for wallstreet and if they land onto something major, they can then proceed to collect royalties from the world for next X decades. You generally can't patent a new law of nature or something, so of course they shift away from basic research. Too bad the engineering and other sciences need that groundwork too.
while the business sector performed roughly 78% of U.S. R&D
The private sector has already begun pivoting R&D to China too.
Geez if only some billionaire who gave a shit about science and America could have seen this coming.
Propaganda! The US spends at ton of money on research. They search for new ways to protect pedophiles fuck the world.
This is so much giving them credit. They're driven by prestige, patriotism, expectations of being on top by 2049, and the fact that their students and researchers were banished by the anti-immigrant policies and hubris of the Trump regime, as the imperialists have taken themselves to destroy America in piecemeal fashion.
Also, I see that the 50-cent army has arrived in Lemmy.
Don’t you think it’s time we stop claiming China is bluffing?
Every time they do something, there is always some sinister reason for it. “Ghost cities”, “trains to nowhere”, aggression in the South China Sea towards Taiwan. And every time, it turns into a nothingburger.
Those Ghost cities? A few failed but most of them are filled and vibrant. Those people would be living in poverty a generation ago. High speed rail? They have more high speed rail than the entirety of the United States has of ALL rail.
It’s time to stop treating China as something we can lie away. They’re winning, and they’re winning big. America has been exposed as the “paper tiger” that it is. We could have kept going but between the crimes of our past finally catching up to us and the oligarchs seeing the writing on the wall and trying to cash out or capture what’s left; I’m afraid the ol red white and blue is actually cooked.
That is a welcome evolution for the world.
Unfortunately the US is doing violent desperate moves to cling to power and hinder China, like blocking their oil near the Straight.
Not that it works since many ships have passed and Russia is selling them more.
They’re winning, and they’re winning big.
I'm not buying it. There still remains an awful wealth gap and hence class conflict only skillfully hidden by state propaganda.
As someone living in a country so close to Mainland China, and having survived a fuckhat named Duterte who called himself a president but was also running a massive meth business while allowing Xi to "invest" and but Triad-wannabes mostly on offshore gambling, we are still being asked to exchange one hegemony with another, a hegemony demanding that their "nine-dash" BS be recognized as "legitimate and unshakeable".
This is so much giving them credit.
Yeah. A large pay of their strategy is to make a rational long term plan, stick to it, and let their competitors do stupid things.
Oh, sure, they're that confident. All the while their government go to insane lengths to hide their home-grown class struggle, you know, the gap between the haves and have-nots.
We should give credit where its deserved. Also every country wants to be #1, nobody is at the end of the day.