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The admin stated they won't be renewing the domain because .af is now controlled by the Taliban.

Link to post: https://queer.af/@postmaster/111733741786950083

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[–] Balinares@pawb.social 165 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Could we, like, leave the clickbait headlines to reddit? Thanks. The queer.af admins just decided -- wisely -- not to renew the domain considering who the fee would go to.

It was pretty clickbaity but damn I did laugh

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 84 points 9 months ago

Reading that headline scared me. For a moment I thought the instance owner was killed by the Taliban.

[–] iso@lemy.lol 76 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Another reason to not use ccTLDs.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the Taliban take over Australia I’ve got bigger issues to worry about than my domain name.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that's why australia has their army of spiders

[–] Funwayguy@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

God help us all if we have to break out the Emus

[–] radix@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What alternatives are there? Just the big .org, .com, .net ones?

[–] iso@lemy.lol 36 points 9 months ago

Nope. The ones you're mentioned are gTLD (generic top-level domain) but most of the other domains are generic TLD too. See here for the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains

Just don't use country-code TLDs because they can removed by those countries. For example fmhy.ml and now queer.af.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Just use .net or so. Or make it dependent on where you host, so .fi or .de or .us or whatever. TLDs aren't just for lulz, and getting specific country ones just for "funny" combinations just leads to stuff like this happening.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No need to limit yourself to US tld's, country ones for funny domains can be stable as well. My domain koffie.nu (coffee.now in Dutch), registered in '98, is still going strong. I just hope the rising sealevel won't wipe away the country any time soon.

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meer info over koffie zal in 1999 worden toegevoegd

Lies

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yep, never came to updating the site, it's my email/network domain. Maybe Imshould change the 1 into a 2 ;)

[–] rglullis 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are so many industry-specific tlds now that I literally lost count of how many different ones I've used and purchased. When I am looking for domains for topic-specific instances, I had about 30 different tlds selected for namecheap's"beast mode".

[–] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 11 points 9 months ago
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So many now, it’s opened up to at least like 100 or more words now.

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DNS engineer here: it's the bane of my existence. Vanity TLDs were a cash grab for ICANN. They have made defensive domains a nightmare

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

They could get a .ck domain instead and move to queer.as.fu.ck, no?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 9 months ago

.ck is only available as subdomains - including the hilarious, co.ck.

[–] NekkoDroid@programming.dev 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't that need them to get the fu.ck domain itself? I have a feeling that is already used by someone else, but there currently isn't any website at that domain (doesn't mean it isnt used)

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 28 points 9 months ago

Worst hypothesis they just need to mess around a bit. For example I don't think that queerasfu.ck would be registered.

[–] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Activitypub makes it next to impossible to "move" an instance to a new domain.

Every post/comment/and user is uniquely identified using the domain. In the eyes of ActivityPub changing the domain just makes each of those things a completely new thing.

You can set up a new service at your new domain and potentially get most all your users to migrate but they'll be leaving behind their entire histories and as a "new" fediverse user they'll only be discoverable via the historical posts for as long as the original server is reachable.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 months ago

Yes, that was a big issue for fmhy.ml too

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thats IMO one of the worst engineering decisions in the protocol, besides all the others, but this one (making identity depend on domains, meaning on third parties antithetical to decentralization) is... laughable. Who was responsible for it?

[–] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 1 points 9 months ago

But, the theory goes, you're not supposed to be reliant on third parties as you should be in control of your own domain (or within a few degrees of the person who is).

Large instances are what are antithetical to decentralisation.

Of course, the reality of it is that, it just hasn't worked out like that.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Damn, that's sad. Thank you for the info.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not sure how well this would actually work, but couldn't the admins "copy" the instance to the new domain and then initiate an account migration from the old to the new instance for every account? That should both push out the account transfer to all the other instances and preserve the post history as well.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Is there no SAN equivalent for AP?

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 37 points 9 months ago

That’s quite an intentionally misleading headline @hal_5700X@lemmy.world

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They could have renewed it just for the irony. Even if it means giving some money to the Taliban.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

funding oppression of women for the luls

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

If you're on the country code, you open yourself up to risk. ml has been a risk before.

Your headline is misleading though. Taliban didn't kill it. Admin did.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Such a heinous click bait, I'm inclined to down vote the post. Definitely misleading af.

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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What a bad taste title

For who...The Taliban?

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