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[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What I don't understand is, if booger-eating MAGA could hijack the Republican party a decade ago, why are progressive grassroots still waiting for permission from Woodstock attendants?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

There was a lot of money behind the tea party and then maga takeover. Its just not there the same way for the progressive since the billionaires are all on the other side or not getting heavily involved.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

because the republican party is relatively united in thought and desire and via who is paying them all off.

The democratic party is more akin to 35 parties in a trenchcoat all pretending to be one party, thanks entirely to the forced nature of the two party system our government has.

And a lot of those in seats of power in the DNC and Democratic Party have the same masters/paylords as the Republicans and want the Democratic party to be nothing more than controlled opposition.

Firebrands like AOC and Bernie tend to get elected by accident, instead of by purpose, in the grand scheme.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

MAGA did it from the top down. Trump became president and was able to strong arm people below him. He was even able to switch the RNC chair to a family member.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 132 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (23 children)

Jon carries a lot of water for the idea that the Democratic Party leadership are inept.

They are not. They accomplish every task they set out to.

The problem is that they don’t want the same things the voters in the party want.

They don’t want to “win”. The only thing they want is to maintain their proximity to wealth and power, and so they have cast their lot with the oligarchy, the same as Republicans.

The Democratic Party ”runs cover” (“block tackle” for you Europeans) for the Republicans while the Republicans overtly dismantle democracy. There is always a parliamentarian or a “blue slip rule” to help the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory. How many times do they need to strain credulity and invent some new excuse or mechanism for their failure for it to form a composite image of collaboration?

The Democratic Party is a honeypot used to attract and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and prevent the “Overton Window” of American politics from moving left.

At every crucial moment they have supported the privatization and financialization of the commons, the wars of aggression, the surveillance & police state, and they will continue to do so until Palantir storm troopers are dragging people from their Blackrock housing to Amazon work camps to fulfill their mandated techno feudal district conscription period.

Thank you. I'm tired of people thinking the neo-liberals of the Democrats are their friends. They point toward the few pieces of legislation they pass that's positive when they ignore all the needed legislation they never even give lip service to. In all the time since its inception payments for disabilities and similar have not risen to meet inflation, the amount they can keep in a bank account hasn't changed since like the 1970s. There's SO much wrong that the Dems could platform on and spend so much time doing if they win but they don't want to.

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[–] Erna_muse@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

People get too deep into conspiracy theories. Establishment politics is problematic but I think people need to engage with how things actually work.

The rich and powerful are going to petition the government and the government will have some corruption. So the how is important because it informs how we put them back in their box.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 232 points 4 days ago (52 children)

Fuck the DNC.

The DNC is an open enemy of the left. They're explicitly paid by the oligarchy to oppose leftist candidates.

The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump's presidency. They did more than anyone else to ensure - not once but twice - that he would win. The voters made it very clear that they wanted a leftist, and the DNC effectively said, "Fuck you - you're going to get a pro-corporate, pro-zionist, neoliberal piece of shit and if you don't like it, that's your fucking problem."

And they're already laying the groundwork to do it again in 2028.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (15 children)

I blame Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Hillary Clinton for not letting Bernie battle Trump in 2016. Trump didn't win that election, Hillary lost it.

Bernie would have shone a light on their corruption, and they can't have that.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 34 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Nailed it. The Republicans tried to throw the election in 2016, and the DNC was all like "Hold my beer, let me show you how it's done".

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago (36 children)

I'm not an american, but it seems like the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.

There's this vibe of self-destruction in american society that is rooted in the 2 party system: one party is your mortal enemy and another doesn't quite represent you - so everyone just low key feels like destroying the whole thing rather than working on making it better.

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 39 points 4 days ago

This guy is from Maine, and they do have ranked choice voting for federal elections, one of the steps on the way to breaking the two-party stranglehold.

Of course the Republicans fought it tooth and nail, because they will never win another race with a system like this, and exploited a loophole in the state constitution to keep ranked choice out of state races.

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Good for him.

He doesn’t owe them shit

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[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The older I get, the more I believe that some democracies are nothing but uniparty rule dressed up as choice. Japan is one example. The US is another.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's actually extremely antidemocratic to hold up bipartisanship as a virtue. Literally believing that the more that the two parties act as one party, the better is beyond insane.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Japan has been run by the same party since the second world war, with a single brief change of power in the 2010s.

Japan has a ruling party and an opposition.

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He doesn’t need the DNC. To be honest. He’s probably better off.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Im in trump country Maine and some of the trump houses have his sign up.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's funny how Jon Stewart can say the same things as Return2Ozma and the .world mod team doesn't remove the posts about it, or say Stewart handed the election. While he has infinitely more sway and influence than someone on a niche internet forum.

I'm amazed this post has stayed up from the same mods who banned R2O and others for saying the same thing.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the canary in a coal mine haha

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