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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 4 days ago

How fucking hard is it to just suspend a license? I've had 1 speeding ticket in 20 years. 16 in a single year should probably land you in jail.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sixteen in a single year should be well beyond the threshold for permanent revocation of driving privileges.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Is there not some kind of demerit points system in New York? Here in Queensland (and the other states are the same, I believe) , you get 12 points and if you lose them all, you lose your licence for at least six months. Even on a minimum 1 point ticket, which is for going no more than 11km/h over the limit, you'd lose your licence long before getting 16 tickets.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These are cars that were caught by speed cameras. So far, cars caught on speed cameras have been treated more leniently than drivers caught speeding by the police; since a driver can dispute that they were the driver caught on camera, a camera ticket just generally consists of a fine and usually doesn't allow you to collect points on your license.

But instead of targeting the driver (who may, possibly, be innocent), this targets their cars. It'll hopefully have the same effect.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago

They're doing it wrong, then. In Australia, if you get a camera speeding ticket, you simply provide the details of the actual driver in a statuary declaration on the back of the ticket. If you can't do that, you cop the same fine as if it were you driving.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Should probably pass a threshold to get them sectioned

[–] teft@piefed.social 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Make it include institutional cars too. Like cops who think they can just put on the sirens and lights and drive 75.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

One of the most prolific traffic violators in the New York City area is a white Dodge ram truck. It's owned by a cop.

[–] Steve 6 points 4 days ago

Well, legally speaking, they can.
They aren't supposed to. They can get in trouble at work. But I don't think it's actually illegal.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

Just take their license and their car and make them report to a probation officer for a while. The first things I learned about driving is that the car can be considered a lethal weapon and that driving is a privilege.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

why are the fines so low?

[–] username_1@programming.dev -4 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I'm not a driver, so not a specialist, but couldn't this approach increase the crash number? As I understand sometimes the car just must have some speed and\or power reserve to have an ability to safely maneuver...

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Bingo. This will only encourage those drivers to push it to their set limit giving them no room to correct. Also, handling gets fucky when accelerating and letting off at the top, which is right when the suspension would be loaded.

These drivers should really just have their licenses revoked and their cars taken. Driving should be a privilege, not an expected right when given that you can easily kill people in the process.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Genuine question: under what circumstances do you need to accelerate above the general traffic speed (which should be the speed limit) to maneuver? The only thing I can think of is passing, and I'm fine with saying that's just not something a repeat super-speeder be allowed to do.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

spin recovery / understeer transition in front wheel drive cars (bad roads / traction loss in the rear, correcting for a blowout believe it or not), accelerating out of the way of someone about to accidentally pit you from behind (or from across), when you're too close to the yellow and stopping will put you in the intersection and in the gun of the red light camera, pushing the holeshot on an opposite lane pass that turned ugly...

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess, basically all of those sound like issues that could be avoided by driving slower and more carefully in general though. I will also point out that according to the article there is the ability to override the device for about a minute while logging the override, which leaves more than enough time to perform a maneuver like that in an emergency (I assume there are penalties for using the override outside of an emergency).

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

All your carefulness in the world can be undone by one careless driver. All these speed governing systems can be tricked or rendered a dngerous roadblock by dirty cameras, a cloudy day, roadwork, or interference on the gps band

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Sounds to me like still better than nothing, especially when it's only being applied to people who are unsafe drivers anyway. On the other hand, I would greatly prefer the license just be revoked and their car auctioned off at this point instead.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I somewhat regularly drive through traffic that naturally flows faster than the speed limit. Those are hardly ever the drivers' fault imo. The physical construction of the road should match its intended speed limit. You can't build a long straight stretch of 3 lane road with no exits and merges, and still expect the people to stick to a 70kmh limit. The traffic will naturally flow faster than that if the road makes it too easy to exceed it. Those roads are usually intentionally made like that to be honeypots for the police anyway, at least that's what I suspect.

Anyway, if my car was made unable to keep up with that, I'd be impeding the flow. That's never very safe.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Certainly if someone is used to driving a certain way and then their car just cuts the power they might get something like liftoff oversteer or even poss of power during an overtake which causes a head-on because they're definitely to dumb to back out of an overtake.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Speeding can only get you out of the kind of trouble that only speeding can get you into., e.g trying to overtake a b-double.

I’m not a driver,

Obviously.