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A federal judge in Florida ruled a U.S. law that prohibits people from having firearms in post offices to be unconstitutional, the latest court decision declaring gun restrictions violate the Constitution.

U.S. District Judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, a Trump appointee, cited the 2022 Supreme Court ruling “New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen” that expanded gun rights. The 2022 ruling recognized the individual’s right to bear a handgun in public for self-defense.

The judge shared her decision in the indictment that charged Emmanuel Ayala, U.S. Postal Service truck driver, with illegal possession of a firearm in a federal building.

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[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 116 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Now do courthouses and see how well that goes.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Restrictions on carry in court houses would likely pass the Bruen test.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

I don't see any reason why a court should be treated any differently though.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago

Well yeah, the Courts make up rules and tests to advance whatever agenda is on the docket. They work backwards from the result they want.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

What historical analog can you point to that wouldn’t also apply to post offices?

[–] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] endhits@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Banks are private entities. Apples and oranges.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 69 points 9 months ago

You know what else is public? Courthouses.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Florida is such a shit hole.

[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

We're not "such a shit hole". We're an exquisite shit hole.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 27 points 9 months ago (17 children)

Cool, so the place that mass shootings in the US began, and coined its own phrase, now must allow armed nut jobs inside. What could go wrong!?

[–] Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The USPS has been abused by DeJoy, another trump appointee, who filled the fleet with more gas vehicles with less efficiency than previous models. That and removing public mail boxes for “reasons that totally didn’t have to do with mail-in voting helping Democrats win elections, promise.”

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It wasn't just blue boxes, he also shut down sorting machines, slowing mail processing in another attempt to delay mail-in ballots. Luckily we weren't sending these off to get sorted at the plant and would take them to the town hall directly which probably helped circumvent a lot of late ballots. Can't say this was done in every office but in my local area I know we did that.

Edit: a word

[–] TonyStew@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Quite literally all but 1 came after the 1972 ban.

Also yet another bootlicking judge leaving the guy charged with nothing but resisting arrest.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Going postal now legal in Florida.

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[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

These people are out of their fucking minds. Nothing’s ever enough.

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[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I WILL FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM IN THE POST OFFICE

NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO TAKE MY GUNS

/s

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I need a gun when I go to the post office to protect myself from the postal workers when they decide to go postal.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Be interesting to see how the appeal goes. It’s going to take a while to thin out those Trump judges.

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, this is going to be the real and lasting problem of his (hopefully) single-term. The justice system (specifically the supreme court) is going to be fucked for many years to comes. That is unless congress actually expands or sets some kind of limits.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

I'm fifty. Guaranteed I'm going to be dead before the supreme court is fixed, so this is my life now.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

this investigation is a huge waste of resources

[–] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We should make sure it's also unconstitutional to block guns at:

  • Courthouses
  • GOP conventions
  • Political rallies
  • NRA conventions
[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

With the exception of the courthouse, those examples are privately owned locations which can currently not allow firearms to their whim. Courthouse gun-free zones are constitutional and reaffirmed via Bruen.

The 3 other examples are: Theaters, arenas, public events reserved via permit, etc.

Depending on the state, any private location can choose to allow firearms and some states have the rule of law in that. In states where disallowing firearms does not have the rule of law, the individual going against the wishes of the location or event can be asked to leave under threat of trespassing as an unwelcomed individual.

Opening up those locations to firearms would also negate all other laws that ban carry on private property or otherwise public properties reserved by a private party as none would qualify as a constitutional gun-free zone.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Bunch of scared insecure children on the right. Recommend a listen to Malcolm Gladwell 6 part series on gun violence for the history of the rights obsession with 2A.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I want to open carry an ar15 in an MRI room. If you prohibit that, you are violating my constitutional rights!

If you say that there are exceptions to those rights the I think we have a crack that we need to rip open juuuuust a little wider.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

I love how open carry was banned in California by Republican legislation and the law was signed by fucking none other than conservative golden calf, Ronald Reagan.

And why? Because the Black Panthers were making white people nervous.

There's no moral or logical consistency until you realize everything they do is self serving and any given stance is subject to change whenever convenient.

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